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Nyererei Python Island and christmas fulu in same tank?

8 years 3 months ago #32376 by pat.messer
I have a male mixed victorian tank. I was breeding 3 different types of vic's but once I was done with them I got rid of the females and put all the males together. It is a rather impressive tank.

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11 years 8 months ago #16031 by dragonkeeper
Good post. Really explains the issues with housing vics together.

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11 years 8 months ago #15997 by deadman
i know that in most cirlcles  its taboo to mix victorians. and much care should be taken should one decide to mix species in a "community" tank.
i have sucessfully kept both pundamilia nyereri ingombi islamd with my xystichromis phytophagus.
both sexes of each species. being that the barring in the two species are dramatically diffrent one being vertical and the other horizontal. so that when it came time to seperate the two it was easy to  tell the diffrence between the females.
the phytophagus was also a good choice as they are a scraper and thier temperment more than matched that of the pundamilia.
being a victorian advocate one of the "knocks" on vics is that they cannot be housed togather. and while the risk of hybribization exist this shouldnt stop us from dispalying many of the beautiful species offered togather. also most species may be housed togather with no females from either strain is present. and often time the presence of another male will have them showing great color most of the time.

having said all that, and not wanting to start an uproar, at NO time should any offspring be kept nor distributed that may be produced during cohabitation with mixed species. i will say that i did keep one set of fulu fry and bred them out over 3 more generations and they bred true, but i believe that would be the exception to the rule. and none of thoes fish were ever distributed but rather became fish food.
here is a great example
i house my pundamilia blue bar with kyoga flame backs and flavenentis togather, there is so much diffrence in the species that while the rare chance of hybridization exist the risk is minimal.

again extream caution is urged, species like hap. sp 44 red tail. will breed with any other species and have even spawned with peacocks and munuba.

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11 years 9 months ago #15532 by Jmac
Thanks for the help. We are just trying to get the right mix.
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11 years 9 months ago #15519 by Nuchal Man
Don't mix them if you plan on keeping groups because of hybridization. If you are just keeping show males, it will be fine.

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11 years 9 months ago #15517 by forumadmin
You should not mix Nyeri and Fulu as these similar fish could readily interbreed. Most Vics are only recently speciated, so crossing is likely.

These two species are also similarly shaped and colored fish. The males would probably go after each other, so that would be a problem.

If you decide to do this anyways-- DO NOT DISTRIBUTE THE FRY. This would be a cross-genus crossing which would be really, really bad.

You can mix these Hap-type Vics with most Malawian Mbuna, some tangs (brichardi, leleupi, e.g) with no problems.


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11 years 9 months ago #15514 by Jmac
Can you put Nyererei Python Island and Christmas Fulu, Haplochromis (Xystichromis) phytophagus  in same tank? The tank has loads of rock in it.Setting up a show tank and are learning as we go.

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