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Lobochilotes labiatus

7 years 3 weeks ago #33980 by Midknight
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"They are absolutely some of the most brutal fish I've seen."

-- Thanks for the heads up, Sam. I'm thinking I'll probably not bid on them. They would have to be housed with fish that I wouldn't want to lose on a whim. I'm sure there will be something else I can toss money at anyway.
-- I'll save this species for a time when I have plenty of room to spare.

Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable - if anything is excellent or praiseworthy - think about such things. Philippians 4:8

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7 years 3 weeks ago #33977 by scubadiver
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Also in the same family we have Simochromis diagramma


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7 years 3 weeks ago #33976 by scubadiver
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Ps they arrived last night and are about 1.5 inches to 1.75 inches.


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7 years 3 weeks ago #33975 by scubadiver
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Sam thanks for scaring everyone off from these fish. Todd they should now sell for $10 lol.

Sam you are keeping some thats great, will be interesting to see who can get their fish to spawn first. Todd that could be fun.

Those bruisers were wild and big, if they were not aggressive they would not be alive.

Wild fish and big fish behave very different than smaller fish.

There is no question all information lists them as aggressive.

Again there is a thread on Minnfish talking about breeding them not much information.

Sam what about the petrochromis or the Lamena how are they comparatively for aggression.





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7 years 3 weeks ago #33974 by Nuchal Man
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They are total d*cks!!!!! They are absolutely some of the most brutal fish I've seen. I've got a group of fry that are crowded with some other fry now and they are ok, but they are monsters when they get older. I got them from my friend Rich Bireley who had a group of 5 large ones around 10" in 900 gallon (yes, not a typo 900 gallons). The male hunted down and killed off the other male as well as two females shortly after he got them and also killed a colony of 6" Ctenochromis horei. Part of what makes them deadly is they generate a ton of suction when they bite and it causes them to descale whoever they are attacking fairly quickly. They remind me a lot of Ctenochromis horei but with a much worse reputation.

That being said, they are a really cool and fairly unique looking fish. The pair Rich has left are around 14-15" now and are super impressive. You just can't keep them with anything that looks remotely similar in color and I wouldn't keep them with anything that if it died you'd be super upset about.

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7 years 3 weeks ago #33971 by scubadiver
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Todd,
We dont have the fish yet but they are F1 not wild and listed as small - so I assume 1.5 to 2 inches.

I bred demasoni in a 36 gallon bow tank (just loaded it with rocks and made all decisions around them ).

I am going to regret this but I generally have not lost many fish to outright aggression (ha except apisto panduro's lol)

Minnfish is down but googling someone had bred them at 3 to 4 inches (from what I could decifer).

I have never owned them and you know what you are doing, I think you will be successful.

I would be willing to try them.

Breed them before they are 5 to 6 inches and you will be good.

I find aggressive fish far easier than delicate fish (and they are not delicate from what I read)

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7 years 3 weeks ago - 7 years 3 weeks ago #33968 by Midknight
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-- Well, being in the know as you are, Jason; how big are these guys at present? And, are they terribly aggressive? We all keep cichlids, and we all know how to cope with aggression to varying degrees, but are these guys real monsters? I had a Ctenochromis horei male for a while and he was too much for the other inhabitants. Even without a female around he was always asserting himself to the detriment of everyone else. My largest tank is a 90 gallon - which I know is not ideal - but I thought if I could get them to breed young, I could move the group soon thereafter (which is something I typically don't do).
-- Do you think that's a reasonable idea with these fish? I really would like some advice from someone who's kept them before. I couldn't scrounge up much on the net.
-- By the way, since you mentioned the Petrochromis, I read an interesting article on petros the other day on Cichlid-forum.com. www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/petrochromis_myth.php
-- My mistake, you mentioned Paretroplus. Well, it's still a good article.

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7 years 3 weeks ago - 7 years 3 weeks ago #33964 by scubadiver
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Tank full of :) you are very positive just joking.

My guess is they will breed much smaller as most fish due.

I also think the top male will kill any other top males in the tank.

We picked up some rare nice fish and some rare mean fish lol.

Maybe get these and Paretroplus lamena and see who survives or if they balance each other

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7 years 3 weeks ago #33963 by Midknight
-- I saw that this is one of the potential species for the upcoming rare fish auction on the 14th. I was wondering if anyone has any experience with this species. I did some internet searching, but it was difficult to come up with much info other than size and relative temperament. Some first hand experience would be great.
-- If I were to obtain this species, my plan would likely be to attempt to breed them at about half their potential size. They apparently get huge (14-15") and keeping a tank full of such huge fish is beyond me at this point, but a tank with a few 8" fish is manageable.
-- Any thoughts or advice?

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