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Trophs and/or gobies

9 years 4 months ago #31357 by ryguy
Replied by ryguy on topic Trophs and/or gobies
Hi Im Ryan and i wanted to give you my opinion on what I would do so I could have tropheus and/or gobys in my 125. first off here is a little info about me... I have been in the hobby for aound 5 years now. when I first started out I went crazy with buying fish and not even knowin anything about them. as time as gone on I have learned alot from other people in the hobby, reading alot of books and stuff on the computer and most of all my self. If you ask a question almost everyone will give you a different answer in this hobby.. so u start to figure out you own secerts and ways of doing things... me personally I love giving advise and helppin fellow fish keepers, im the guy that all my buddys come to when they have a problem or wanna know something bout there tank or fish. so any ways sorry for talkin your ear off so here is what i think u should do....

first off u could of kept the shellie if u wanted to. i almost keep a shellie in everyone of my bigger breeder tanks cause most of the time any mid water fish wont see the tiny baby and shellies are usually very good parents. i usually wait til the babys are around a 1/2" and then suck them out with a hose into a bucket. your fulliborni will be fine with the tropheus and gobys< they all have the same diet and all come from similar habitats. the julie were a good idea to sell cause they are fine nippers and can be very mean once they start to pair off and will kill anything that gets close to there territory.. even though they are a very cool fish to whatch in the tank. as far as the cyps go i have kept them with trophs and gobys in a 125 and they did fine togther but trophs are aggressive and cyps are more peaceful. that ones up to you and the catfish will be fine keep them there good for cleaning and eatin extra food, look cool. well hope i was of help to you an once again sorry for talkin your ear off i never really looked at any of these listing before< only posted adds on the gcca.

thanks Ryan

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9 years 6 months ago #31083 by mikeg2929
Replied by mikeg2929 on topic Trophs and/or gobies
Tropheus are great.  There are several guys from Michigan who can provide you with a large quantity to start with.  I will be a very colorful, active tank. 

And odds are, you will kill them all.  Why do I say that?  Because tropheus are a fish that when it goes bad, they all die and it happens very frequently. 

Want the same color for about 1/4 the price?  Hit the next swap and pick out 3 of many types of MBUNA - pseudotropheus, labeotropheus, labidochromis, etc. 

You will have an action filled tank, they will live forever, and it will have a ton of color.

my 2 cents.

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9 years 6 months ago #31068 by Valanda
Replied by Valanda on topic Trophs and/or gobies
Honestly, I haven't made a decision yet. I am very slow to decide things generally.
I have been doing some house-cleaning in this 125. What I have left are the multies and the petricola.
It looks quite empty.

The root of my desire is to have fish I can see from the couch across my livingroom. I am tired of years of squatting/kneeling in front of the tank to see what is going on. My knees aren't what they used to be. Also, my son has low vision, so I thought the bright colors of the trophs or would be easier for him to see.

One day I am thinking I want to try fronts, the next I am thinking trophs. At least I know for sure that I don't want to switch lakes or continents and I want to get my new fish from someone in GCCA.

I am planning to attend the GCCA auction for the first time this November. As I have only attended one fish auction before, I don't know what to expect from yours. Am I likely to find what I finally choose to go with there in the numbers I need? Or would I be better off setting up an order through the classifieds?

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9 years 6 months ago #31049 by mikeg2929
Replied by mikeg2929 on topic Trophs and/or gobies
I would dump the labeotropheus and the rest will do fine with tropheus.

The simplest care instructions I can offer for tropheus is to maintain stability. 

Feed the same food - NLS sprectrum in a small pellet is great for this.
Do frequent, consistent water changes.  Once or twice per week, 50% at a time and you will be great.
Buy a bunch of tropheus - 12 minimum.  30 is better.  When you have a huge cloud of them it 1) looks cool 2) allows the sub-dominant fish to hide from the dominant ones. 
Few rocks - in a 6foot 125 I would set a large rock in both of the rear corners of the tank.  Your toughest males will gravitate toward those rocks and the remaining fish will swim in the middle 4 feet.

Have meds on hand.  Clout (is it still available?) is best.  Metro next.  If a fish looks sick - pull it and treat it separately.  Fish who get bloat typically die.  Leaving him in the main tank just perpetuates the problem.  Then, treat the main tank.

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9 years 6 months ago #31045 by whetfish
Replied by whetfish on topic Trophs and/or gobies
Well it sounds like you're going to give a tropheus community a go.  Let me know how it works out. 

I've got a tang community in a 125 right now that I've debated moving to a 330 and adding tropheus, but dealing with bloat in a tank that size makes me wary.

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9 years 6 months ago #31038 by Valanda
Replied by Valanda on topic Trophs and/or gobies
I am currently trying to re-home the fuelleborni. Originally they came from the University of Illinios research lab where they were doing studies on bloat. Feeding one group hi protein, the other fully vegan and so forth. I got them cause they were free and I felt they were an intermediate to the real thing. My troph "training wheels" so to speak.

As for the cost of treating bloat, I learned of this site from my mother (who happens to be a veterinarian) www.fishyfarmacy.com/products3.html

$27 to treat 800gal. Not too bad. Even lower if you can get the wholesale pricing. I learned long ago, my fish meds never come from the pet store. They come from Rural King, Farm-n-Fleet, or I yell for my mom's help. Human grade antibiotics are free or $4 at many pharmacies. Why should I pay ridiculous prices for them when i want to use them in my aquarium?

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9 years 6 months ago #31034 by dragonkeeper
Replied by dragonkeeper on topic Trophs and/or gobies
I think you will have to move out the fuelleborni. They can be pretty aggressive especially to other species that are similar looking.

DragonKeeper
~Retired President~

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9 years 6 months ago #31033 by whetfish
Replied by whetfish on topic Trophs and/or gobies
I haven't kept tropheus with many different tankmates.  I've heard that they work well with gobies.  I've had tropheus with julies and it was fine.  I think that mixing tangs is awesome but I am very hesitant to mix tropheus with anything for two main reasons. 

One - tropheus get bloat easier than most fish.  It happens when you get poor conditions or stressful situations.  Tankmates might cause stress in the tropheus.  Also treating a big tank for bloat sucks.

Two - Tropheus can be very mean and could kill other fish or just out compete them for food very easily.

I think that they can work mixed in a tanganyikan community, but I don't think it will work 100% of the time and chances are it won't be easy.

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9 years 6 months ago #31031 by Valanda
Trophs and/or gobies was created by Valanda
After looking through the classified here I find I am very interested in both trophs and gobies. I do have a 125 tank, my introductory thread describes this tank in some detail.

Fish: I have a large colony of multies, 10 Julie transcriptus "Bemba", 6 syno Petricola, 14 cyp leptosoma "Bulu Point", and 3 Labeotropheus fuelleborni 

Just exactly which fish would I have to move elsewhere to convert this tank to a troph tank? I have already moved the julies and may have a buyer for the cyps.

Are there any other changes I would have to make?
Can gobies and trophs be kept together?

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