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Pseudotropheus demasoni

12 years 6 months ago #4910 by rm-slover
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four sounds really really low -

normally anything less than 8 would be dangerous. i have never kept any less than 14 in one tank.

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12 years 6 months ago #4909 by stealthscope
you had four and they were fine?

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12 years 6 months ago #4905 by ReptileJK
Replied by ReptileJK on topic Pseudotropheus demasoni
Sounds like someone's gonna be buying a new tank!  ;D

It's the best part about keeping cichlids....you always say..."I'll be fine with just one tank"...then "two tanks is the maximum I'll need"....pretty soon your craming tanks in every corner you can find!

I started out back in the beginning trying just one 55......Now I'm up to two 55s, two 70s, a 20, and a 180!

I had four demasoni in my first community tank.  Very cute little fish.  They never bred, but they were always fun to watch zipping around and are cute little buggers....

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12 years 6 months ago #4881 by dragonkeeper
I wouldn't do any less than 8 and be prepared to move if someone is showing signs of a beating.

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12 years 6 months ago #4871 by stealthscope
I like my peacocks too much to get rid of them. I really do want to try with some small demasoni ... it really depends of I find ones of the right size.

I am stil thinking it over... BUT what is the recomended minimum? I know it depends and some people have been lucky enough to keep a pair that got along. I'd like the smallest number possible that will be safe. I will have 14 fish when I get the ruby reds.... so I was hoping for 6 maybe 8? If I really need more then I might not be able to get them... I don't want to push the limit too much..I was told once that I can't go over 24 for a 55gal tank but different people have different opinions on what is too much.

Keep in mind... I want to get a bigger tank so I can move them out when they get too big because the problem with the hobby is that you start with one tank...and then u get another.... and another hehe

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12 years 6 months ago #4860 by dragonkeeper

Personally I believe that your tank is at or very close to being full. Especially if you add in the 2 reds. I also don't think that you have enough room to put in the numbers of demasoni that are needed to keep them from killing each other.


DK presents a solid argument.  While Mbuna are fish that are happiest and healthiest when a large and rigorous social order is present- P. demasoni being at a relatively extreme end of this, Peacocks are not.  Removing the Peacocks may give you a great shot at keeping demasoni, but from what it sounds like, you have some attractive fish that you already enjoy.

Both yellow labs and P. acei are pretty low on the aggression levels and should bother the peacocks much at all.


All the better for getting the best out of your Mbuna AND Peacocks.



I was going to mention the removal of the peacocks as another option but that train never made it to the station...  ::) ::) ::)

Great backup post Fin

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12 years 6 months ago #4857 by Finnegan@large

I will keep them. Also I forgot to mention that all my current fish are fry and no bigger then 2inches and also I am willing to overcrowd them because I can do a lot of waterchanges I also have a filter thats for 75gal so that helps a bit (cansiter filter.. I hope those are good...). My dad wants to get a bigger tank..about 100gal or more in the future so if they get big and too crowded I will move them. I just really really really want demasoni...


You can always give it a shot with a young group.  Grow them out together, but be prepared to pull the fish that struggle.  Any problems that I anticipate probably won't be present with 2-inchers.  Plus, a benefit that I see to this, is that you will be able to grow them out together.  This is something that I love to do when assembling a community tank.  By growing fish my fish out together, I have the opportunity to get to know my tank's dynamic over time.  Thus it becomes very clear when a larger tank or a split in the community is needed.

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12 years 6 months ago #4855 by Finnegan@large

Personally I believe that your tank is at or very close to being full. Especially if you add in the 2 reds. I also don't think that you have enough room to put in the numbers of demasoni that are needed to keep them from killing each other.


DK presents a solid argument.  While Mbuna are fish that are happiest and healthiest when a large and rigorous social order is present- P. demasoni being at a relatively extreme end of this, Peacocks are not.  Removing the Peacocks may give you a great shot at keeping demasoni, but from what it sounds like, you have some attractive fish that you already enjoy.

Both yellow labs and P. acei are pretty low on the aggression levels and should bother the peacocks much at all.


All the better for getting the best out of your Mbuna AND Peacocks.

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12 years 6 months ago #4854 by stealthscope
I will keep them. Also I forgot to mention that all my current fish are fry and no bigger then 2inches and also I am willing to overcrowd them because I can do a lot of waterchanges I also have a filter thats for 75gal so that helps a bit (cansiter filter.. I hope those are good...). My dad wants to get a bigger tank..about 100gal or more in the future so if they get big and too crowded I will move them. I just really really really want demasoni...

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12 years 6 months ago #4852 by dragonkeeper
You will probably get a few survivors that manage to escape the dinner plate, but as long as you don't plan to sell/trade them all is well.

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