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Triggering Champsochromis Caeruleus into spawning

8 years 6 months ago - 8 years 6 months ago #32626 by scubadiver
I picked up the group at the GCCA Claasic in 2011, and he was about 3 to 4 months then or about 2 to 3 inches.

I would say that he is about 18 to 20 months old, and he is far from done growing, he will probably double in size from a mass perspective.

I was really surprised at how long it took him to color up - he was over a year before he showed color.

I am doing 80% water changes a week, and that should assist with grow out times.

He is a decent amount larger than other champs that I have seen from last years Rare fish auction, which are about the same age.

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8 years 6 months ago #32625 by Lib95
Male looks really good, how long did it take you to grow him out that big?

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8 years 6 months ago #32624 by scubadiver
Here are some pictures








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8 years 6 months ago - 8 years 6 months ago #32623 by scubadiver
Thanks for all the good advice -

First thing I am going to try is to get a huge flower pot and cut a large cave hole in it.

Two of the video's on youtube showing them spawning in show tanks, show the champs breeding in upsidedown flowerpots.

Next will try some silversides or maybe first

I recently stripped the Naevochromis chrysogaster that are in the tank with them so maybe I can move them out of the tank.

If all that fails Perez has got a younger group of them going maybe he has male I can borrow.

Sounds like I have a good challenge -

Somebody also mentioned they are seasonal breeders not sure if that is valid.

You should see the coloring on this male - he has show fish all over him -

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8 years 6 months ago #32622 by mikeg2929
Another thing to think about with champs is that the females can be pretty stealthy when holding. Until they are ready to pop, you may not notice the female holding eggs. watch them eat, if one isnt eating, she may be holding. silversides are great, I diced them up.

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8 years 6 months ago - 8 years 6 months ago #32620 by sawboy
Jason, I bred mine in a 7' - 210 gallon decorated with three large "boulders" and some smaller rock piles in the corners. I kept mine with Frontosa. By virtue of fronts general demeanor this made them "top dogs". I started with two males, and three females. In an odd twist, the smaller male killed the bigger male and spawned regularly. My tank was also in the basement where the only foot traffic was me.

As far as food? Pellets 90% of the time, with the occasional shrimp treat. nothing special there.

In my opinion, you have three issues, and one problem that you didn't describe, but I bet exists.

Tank too small
Too much traffic
Get another male, mine did not spawn until after someone proved themself.

And now the "I bet you have this issue". My guess as this is your show tank, it's decorated rather densely with real nice with caves, rocks etc. These are big fish. They stake out large areas when breeding. I'm betting based in tank size and the assumption of decor that you male simply can't define an area large enough to call his "Spot". As an example, my male was about 13" long. His breeding spot was the left side of the tank behind a boulder. This was an area roughly 18"x18" and all the way to the top of the tank.

Hope this helps.

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8 years 6 months ago #32619 by scubadiver
Thanks - will have to wait an see.

Good and bad news is I cant do anything to make the tank bigger or make it quieter.

Has anyone fed their fish silversides - specifically Malawi predators?

He seems in the mood with the girls all the time (typical male) and they will swim together

I am hoping that if I can do a good job conditioning her it can over come the challenge of only having a five foot tank in a quiet area.

Or maybe its time to tank the family on a vacation for a week

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8 years 6 months ago #32618 by Kegger22
my guess is that they may need a 6 foot tank to make them a bit ore comfortable

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8 years 6 months ago #32616 by dragonkeeper
Champs are a spooky bunch. That is probably your main issue.

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8 years 6 months ago - 8 years 6 months ago #32615 by madeto
BAP Pimp - Definitely. You should probably change your user name to that.

So I say to her……There is plenty of stuff at the house for the baby to eat!!!! I REALLY need this fish……
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