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Nandopsis grammodes rio presita

11 years 9 months ago - 11 years 9 months ago #15693 by baldtaxguy
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I have got 4 little Grammodes coming tomorrow that are about 1 1/4- 1 1/2" in size.  What size tank should I put them in?   Should I keep them in their own separate tank?  I also have 4 small Amarillo's about the same size coming... could I keep them in the same tank?  Would a 75 Gal work out , or should I keep the Amarillos separate?  Plan on putting lots of caves and such in there for hiding places... Hoping to get at least get one breeding pair out of them.  Any advice would be helpful and appreciated.  Also have some Neets coming that are a little bigger, but I think they would be too aggressive especially at their larger size so they definately have their own tank.


Regan, good to hear from you, and I got your PM.

Congrats on the grammodes. I was saving some for you, but I know they'll be behind on the growth rate compared to those you are getting from Jeff. If you need any more down the road, let me know and we can work out something.

Mine came to me about 3-5 inches and I put all 6 with danios, sevrum, and three similar sized Ptychochromis grandidieri, a Madagascar cichlid that is very territorial.  The grammodes were so preoccupied that I believe it helped stretch my loss rate of four grammodes to 6 months - I'd bet it would have been much quicker.  I think the busy tank helped the pair to bond.

I used a 75g but it was busy with both tankmates but also with a lot of pvc and deep, fine gravel. I mean a lot of pvc - it was stacked almost as high as half-way of tank depth.  I sacrificed actually seeing any fish with all the pvc for trying to sustain and breed them.  The less they sit and look at each other is best.  You could add the amarillos - just keep an eye out.

"Chiapas" I have not heard of - ask Jeff for background.

Regarding the rest of your order - I have 4-5" chanchos in case you need an extra or so.  And I also have Amarillos aplenty.  Happ Holidays to you!!


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11 years 9 months ago #15689 by nuth88

Hey Nuth!  Thanks for the reply... will have to go get some dithers then. 
Did you ever end up getting that Red Isletas yet?  If so, post up a pic... I got a pair of those coming too!


They will be making their Chicago appearance on 1/17 or 1/18 - Depending when my buddy gets here! You will love the Grammodes!

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11 years 9 months ago #15688 by RMac
Hey Nuth!  Thanks for the reply... will have to go get some dithers then. 
Did you ever end up getting that Red Isletas yet?  If so, post up a pic... I got a pair of those coming too!

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11 years 9 months ago #15686 by nuth88
RMac~

I have Grown out a few and with success in a 38 with many dithers/targets. I used Small male convicts and Giant Danios. Ill think about it some more as I am trying to remember what else I had in there....

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11 years 9 months ago #15671 by RMac
I have got 4 little Grammodes coming tomorrow that are about 1 1/4- 1 1/2" in size.  What size tank should I put them in?  Should I keep them in their own separate tank?  I also have 4 small Amarillo's about the same size coming... could I keep them in the same tank?  Would a 75 Gal work out , or should I keep the Amarillos separate?  Plan on putting lots of caves and such in there for hiding places... Hoping to get at least get one breeding pair out of them.  Any advice would be helpful and appreciated.  Also have some Neets coming that are a little bigger, but I think they would be too aggressive especially at their larger size so they definately have their own tank.

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11 years 9 months ago #15597 by baldtaxguy
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I agree, I likely will divide and place them within a smaller tank.  The next spawn will be an indicator,hopefully.

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11 years 9 months ago #15588 by nuth88
Scott~

Fantastic! I have got to get over to see you, Hope that the new year lets you chilax for a spell. We have to put something together. Plus I may have something for you...... ::)

Nuthman Abides~

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11 years 9 months ago #15586 by Nuchal Man
There is a reason you never see these guys for sale. The fry kill each other at a small size, and then if you do raise them to adults, they off each other in a matte of minutes. They might not be as bad as Istlanum, but they are up there.

Scott, it really is quite an accomplishment breeding Grammodes. I have a feeling you may try breeding these using the divided tank method soon :D.

I have a confession. I'm a cichlaholic.

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11 years 9 months ago #15574 by baldtaxguy
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Update-

Spawn #3 this time did not involve any error by this Fishkeeper (Spawn #2 was dropped and lost – duh!).  About 20-25 from Spawn #3 were successfully siphoned and are now swimming in a 10g, close to ½” in size.

A subdom female was killed during Spawn #3.  Down to one male, his breeding female, and a third wheel female.

Fishkeeper pulls Third Wheel female to save her life.  Male responds by beating his mate to a pulp. (Duh!) All three get a timeout in separate tanks.

Female Mate heals.  Fishkeeper reintroduces all three into original tank.  Spawn #4 occurs and discovered on Christmas Day (cue “Hark the Herald Angels….”).  About 100+ wrigglers are siphoned to an aerated bucket with meth blue.  Bigger spawn than previous.

During Spawn #4, Third Wheel Female is discovered by Fishkeeper, brutally killed by pair (duh!).  Not for the squeamish, cause of death is quite clear.

Current dithers include 8 giant danios and 3 growing, very p.o’d sevrums, who do not take any grammode c-rap.  These sevs knocked around my 8-9” Oscars, which I originally thought said more about the Oscars’ Wimp-tude, but these sevrums pack heat.

New dithers will include a fistful more of danios and a few of my smaller bueno chanchos.

Spawn # 5 estimated for week of 1/12/09.

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12 years 1 month ago #12653 by nuth88
Call me when the fish come in, if the Izzys don't work, you have got me Grammy Crazy again!

Look Great Scott!

Nuthman~

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