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Tank Plumbing

9 years 4 months ago #31477 by whetfish
Replied by whetfish on topic Tank Plumbing
Why is the the external pipe from the tank to the sump look like a show vac hose? Does the ribbing reduce noise?

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9 years 4 months ago #31469 by forumadmin
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I don't know if they're made anymore, but the Tidepool sumps are pretty cheap. I've had mine for about ten years.

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9 years 4 months ago #31463 by mikeg2929
Replied by mikeg2929 on topic Tank Plumbing
The gcca website isn't the place to look. Active participation is pretty slow, so the odds of someone offering one up is slim.

Post / search craigslist and the CMAS site located within reefcentral.org.

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9 years 4 months ago #31462 by whetfish
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That's a pretty good looking sump, I am hopeing to score a sump from a fellow fish keeper, but I was also looking at the Eshopps WD-300CS.

Thanks Mike - no pvc cement needed.

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9 years 4 months ago - 9 years 4 months ago #31461 by scubadiver
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I went with what I feel is a deluxe sump that is something you may want to look into taking designs from or purchasing if noise is important.

Take a look at this sump -
Aqueon ProFlex Sump Model 4

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9 years 4 months ago #31460 by mikeg2929
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if you have the correct size pvc pipe, it should wedge in there pretty tightly. I never glued mine in permanently.

if it is above the bulkhead, snapping it together is fine. Below the bulkhead - glue it up.

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9 years 4 months ago #31459 by whetfish
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Durso looks pretty easy to make. I'll need to use two, I assume i don't want to glue the standpipe into the bulkhead since then it will be stuck there.

I want to find something acrylic for the sump so then it's far less likely to fail than glass and silicone.

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9 years 4 months ago - 9 years 4 months ago #31458 by mikeg2929
Replied by mikeg2929 on topic Tank Plumbing
No eBay APP ID défined in Kunena configurationI would run with a smaller pump. Saves a little dough, a little energy and little fish wont need nearly as much flow as big crappers.



If this is the same product, it looks the same as a durso standpipe.

www.midwestcustomaquariums.com/dursostandpipe.html

Lots of directions all over the web for a durso.

Stay clear of the multiple sponge overflow. They are a drag to clean and you'll make a mess every time you need to squeeze it our (which will be frequent). Very loud and the gurgle will drive you crazy.

Small fish dont work well with overflows, IME. I glued a piece of mess on the inside of the overflow to cover the teeth. This kept fry and small, exploring fish out of the way.

I have yet to understand the love affair with poret foam. The typical media in sumps (balls, mostly) works so well, that I see no reason to try something different. The poret foam is really designed for in tank applications as opposed to sump applications, it seems. In a super high flow application (1000 gallons per hour) I think you expose yourself to a higher risk of failure do to clogging. If water doesn't flow without impediment in s sump, or is slowed down in any way, you risk overflow.

I would use the durso and have it flow into a small micron sock - that will capture your detritus. The water will then be very clean and aerate your bio balls with minimal buildup of gunk. Simply clean the sock every few weeks / once per month. jehnco has all that stuff and it is pretty simple to set up.

You cant beat a 30 / 40 breeder for a great sump if you have the space.
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9 years 4 months ago #31457 by whetfish
Replied by whetfish on topic Tank Plumbing
Sure thing, I got all the internal plumbing pictured except the magical unicorn-esq oceanic overflow stand pipe. I don't have any of the external plumbing yet, but I'll get some pictures.

I would like it to run as quiet as possible since the tank is in my living room.

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9 years 4 months ago - 9 years 4 months ago #31456 by scubadiver
Replied by scubadiver on topic Tank Plumbing
I would post some pictures of your plumbing. Maybe just layed out on the floor.

I will try to post some pictures of mine that I plumbed. Make sure to have unions and valves in key places so it is easy to shut off. I also had a valve at the beginning which allowed me to update my design once.

Depending on how important noise is to you, being able to sometimes close the valves a tiny bit to reduce noise in sump is nice.

What are peoples thoughts of going with two quiet one 4000s one for each side (this would provide built in redundancy in case of a failure)

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