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Huge plastic water storage tanks

11 years 4 months ago #22921 by wilpir
Craigslist had some water storage tanks in their Farm and Garden Section..and some of the Rubbermaid tubs also ;D ;D ;D

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11 years 4 months ago #22920 by mikeg2929
UNISEAL - the magic equalizer when you need a seal on a union on a curved surface.  I think aquaticeco.com sells them.

I would just use the uniseal at midlevel - plumbing under is a pain.  you should search reefcentral for this kind of stuff - those guys have more water challenges than we do.

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11 years 4 months ago #22919 by decapod
Interesting ideas- I hadn't even thought of plumbing them through the bottom of the cans.  I was wondering how I could get a good seal on a curved surface if I went through the side of the cans. 

Using a pump to circulate between them would sure cut down on the number of heaters and airstones required.  If I used spraybars on the pump returns, I could probably forget about using air altogether.

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11 years 4 months ago #22895 by mikeg2929

I'm looking for a huge plastic water storage tank.  I use well water, so I want to preheat and aerate 200 to 500 gallons for water changes.  My row of 5-gallon buckets with heaters and airstones in them is just stupid. 

I had been thinking about using a few plastic garbage cans.  Rubbermaid Brutes cost about buck a gallon, but the biggest ones that are easily available are 44 gallons.  I finally found the 55 gallon ones for $58.74 at Rubbermaid Wholesale , and you can pick them up at their location in Carol Stream.  Getting several Brutes sounds pretty inconvenient, though. I'd still be using multiple heaters and airstones, and I'd have to move the pump from garbage can to garbage can as they emptied. 

A single giant tank would work much better.  It has to fit down the basement stairs, so the smallest dimension needs to be 31" or less.  Does anybody know a source for something like this that's reasonably cheap?  Obviously, shipping charges would be pretty brutal, so staying semi-local is a big plus.

Thanks!
Don


Ahhh the wonders of lake michicagn water. 

Buy three brutes; build a platform under which you can plumb the three tanks (or two) together.  Take a pump, attach a 2 foot piece of hose the intake and one or 2 4 foot piece(s) to the outlet.  As you suck water from the bottom of one tub, you will fill another tub (or two). As they are plumbed together, the water level will equalize. 

Alternatively, buy several uniseals and plumb them together in line and take a pump and build a simple closed loop. 

See below.  Better yet, use the blue barrels from a bakery - clean and cheap.


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11 years 4 months ago #22856 by redzebra24
Farm and Fleet and I think I've even seen these in a Menards or two carries Rubbermaid stock tanks. 300g is the biggest size they make 63.25" L x 69" W x 25" H all for around 250-300 dollars. If that doesnt sound good, what about this. 150g, its 58" L x 39" W x 25" H for about 150 dollars.

Flip is sideways and carry it down the stairs. As for the height, well I think that shelf might just have to move up.

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11 years 4 months ago #22855 by decapod
Thanks for the ideas.  I should be able to fit a 150 gallon stock tank down the stairs.  The question is where to put it once it's down there.  If I thought 150 gallons was enough, I could build a table/workbench/whatever to hide the tank under.  Doing that with a pair of 150s is harder.

I've got some weird built-in '2x4 and plywood' utility shelving bolted into the concrete along one wall that has 21" of clearance under it and a 142" x 46" footprint below each of the 3 shelf sections.  Now I'm looking for stock tanks that are 21" or shorter instead of the usual 24" or 25". 

High Country Plastics has a rectangular 75 gallon that's 55" L x 26 1/2" W x 17 1/2"H, so I could string several of those together.  They have a short 300 too, but it's way too wide to fit under the shelf.  I emailed to ask if they have any local distributors- I'll post an update if they do.

If I can't find any short stock tanks in the 150 gallon range, then I guess the right thing to do is to raise the shelf a few inches and just use a pair of regular 150s.


While I was looking, I found some interesting vertical cylinders in the 200 to 265 gallon range.  They're 31" in diameter and 6+ feet tall.  The height might require a pretty substantial air pump- I've never tried to aerate anything deeper than 2 feet before.  I was also planning to use a submersible water pump to send water to the aquariums, and the cord on my Quiet One 2200 is a little under 6 feet long.  There's a flat plate at the bottom of the tanks where you can attach bulkheads, but I have no idea how you're supposed to tighten the nut on the inside of the bulkhead without a 6 foot long wrench.

They're expensive, but not ridiculous.  There are lots of cheaper and bigger ones if you can use a 35" or larger diameter.  Makes me want to cut a big hole in the floor.  ;D

31" diameter 200 Gallon for $169.99, or $261.93 shipped to a commercial address

31" diameter 265 Gallon for $239.99, or $336.31 shipped to a commercial address

Buying 2 or more drastically cuts the shipping, as does shipping to a commercial instead of residential address.  A group buy could work really well if anybody decides to go this route.


I found more stuff at Chem-Tainer.  It looks like they don't sell direct except for their Clearance Section , which has some pretty fantastic prices.  Scroll down until you get to the stuff that's at their Lombard location.  It's not very convenient- you have to track down each item number in their main catalog to get dimensions and info, but some of the stuff is so cheap that it's just sick.  Too bad nothing cool will fit through the 31" doorway at the top of my stairs.  I really should cut a giant hole in the floor...



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11 years 4 months ago #22845 by forumadmin
I looked into this a while back. There are 30" wide oblong storage tanks, but they are seriously expensive . . . the 150G was over $300.

One alternative is to simply build one our of plywood. You can seal it with epoxy paint (several coats, make sure you get non-toxic) or you can use a pond liner.

If you have the folks at Home Depot use their panel saw to cut the pieces, it isn't hard to do at all. Plus, you can drill it if you need to add a bulkhead.

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11 years 4 months ago #22836 by dragonkeeper
Your going to have a hard time with most anything at farm and barn that will still make it down the stairs. You could however drill bulkhead holes in the cans and link them together near the floor. It will be hard to get all the water out of them but you will be able to get most of it.

I would use at least 1.5 or 1.75" diameter pvc pipe to connect them. This way you can fill and empty from one can.

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11 years 4 months ago #22832 by sawboy2
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I'm thinking your best bet is to go to Fleet and Farm and see what they can get ya.

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11 years 4 months ago #22831 by decapod
I'm looking for a huge plastic water storage tank.  I use well water, so I want to preheat and aerate 200 to 500 gallons for water changes.  My row of 5-gallon buckets with heaters and airstones in them is just stupid. 

I had been thinking about using a few plastic garbage cans.  Rubbermaid Brutes cost about buck a gallon, but the biggest ones that are easily available are 44 gallons.  I finally found the 55 gallon ones for $58.74 at Rubbermaid Wholesale , and you can pick them up at their location in Carol Stream.  Getting several Brutes sounds pretty inconvenient, though. I'd still be using multiple heaters and airstones, and I'd have to move the pump from garbage can to garbage can as they emptied. 

A single giant tank would work much better.  It has to fit down the basement stairs, so the smallest dimension needs to be 31" or less.  Does anybody know a source for something like this that's reasonably cheap?  Obviously, shipping charges would be pretty brutal, so staying semi-local is a big plus.

Thanks!
Don

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