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Filter Query.

12 years 1 month ago #16755 by rm-slover
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No cold air return = no heat.  Sounds silly,  but trust me.  Get one put in.  Call an HVAC guy and have one installed.


hmmm..... i'll call a place or 2 and ask a few questions. i'll ask shepp!

I have never been a fan of canisters or HOB filters.  Expensive to buy, operate & maintain.  Alos, I despised cleaning them.  Wet drys do rock - massive filtration capacity. 

Since all of my fishtanks are in my fishroom, away from prying eyes, i can do an ugly pvc loop with sponge filters.  Each filter lasts about a year, the pump costs almost nothing to operate, and the filtration is adequate. 

Just ugly - thats all. 


I wasnt a fan of the marineland 350 canister, I always had issues with it until I called marineland and they helped me. They also sent me a free HOT magnum canister type filter and I love them and I have 3 of them now I use to polish.

My fishroom is also in the basement so I have the pvc loop as well. It does look a little sloppy with all the hoses hanging and string around the basement but it works.

Although adding sponges sometimes requires a little work such as closing a bunch of valves to get the pressure pushing air out. after it pushes the air out slowly reopen the valves you closed and they will all flow fine.

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12 years 1 month ago #16754 by nuth88
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Quote from: nuth88 on January 30, 2009, 11:49:49 PM
Just a note, The Admins are watching.... Shocked

Lets keep this thread civil,

Nuthman~


ok, has this thread not been civil??
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Mr.Slover.

Again, you have to question any comment, well here, No Ray, it had started to veer off to a confrontational zone. I will not allow that, what's the common factor? You have to always be involved. Thanks to Sawboy for bringing it back. This is not kindergarden. You choose to do this in a public forum instead of bringing your questions offline. What I said was Keep it civil, or Ill stop it myself, and will continue to watch it. Period.

Sorry to derail, back to the question on filtration.

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12 years 1 month ago #16753 by Kegger22
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I think.


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12 years 1 month ago #16752 by sawboy2
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No cold air return = no heat.  Sounds silly,  but trust me.  Get one put in.  Call an HVAC guy and have one installed.

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I have never been a fan of canisters or HOB filters.  Expensive to buy, operate & maintain.  Alos, I despised cleaning them.  Wet drys do rock - massive filtration capacity. 

Since all of my fishtanks are in my fishroom, away from prying eyes, i can do an ugly pvc loop with sponge filters.  Each filter lasts about a year, the pump costs almost nothing to operate, and the filtration is adequate. 

Just ugly - thats all. 

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12 years 1 month ago #16747 by rm-slover
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  Ray,  do you have a fresh air return in that basement?  Makes a HUUUGE difference. 


You mean like a cold air return...? No, just a vent adding heat.


Just a note, The Admins are watching.... :o

Lets keep this thread civil,

Nuthman~


ok, has this thread not been civil??

I think your savings for the year would fill a 46 bowfront with beer if my calculations are correct ;D


I think your calculations are a little off. A keg of beer is 15.5 gallons, which would be 3 kegs to fill a 46 bow. But kegs are about 50-60 bucks I think. Its been a few years since I bought one which would mean at nuth's savings of 220-240 a year would equal between 4-5 kegs.

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12 years 1 month ago #16745 by Kegger22
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I think your savings for the year would fill a 46 bowfront with beer if my calculations are correct ;D

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12 years 1 month ago #16742 by nuth88
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Just a note, The Admins are watching.... :o

Lets keep this thread civil, and Thank you Bob for your last response, that's the kind of help/advice that we are 9and should be) known for. I will be honest, a big tank can run just dang peachy on Cannisters and AC's, I did it with my 220, before I learned the cost (electricity) and was shown the ways of the wet-dry, Ill never go back, but will always have an extra HOB, PH (with Attachment) or Cannister, to keep up the mechanical aspect.

Trust me, I speak from experience there, Dragonkeeper did a great write up on the cost of electricity, and the way to calculate it. It was costing me just about 30 bucks a month (total -Heater too- just for the 220) with all the 2x-cannisters, 3x-HOB's, 2x-PH's with attachments (looked crystal clear), and now with the wet-dry, & 2xPH's it is about 20 bucks a month cheaper. Granted, I had to add the PH's for circulation and polishing, but 240 bucks a year for 1 tank savings is about what, 10 keg(s) of Keggers nice beer? Makes a difference, End Game it is all what you can afford. I sold my cannisters, (thank you Kegger) and that paid for my Wet-Dry and Pump. Got Dragon to help me plumb, and now know what I am doing there. I feel I made a difference in my bottom line, making the wife happy, cause it cost less to fuel this obsession I have called Cichlids......

Oh and yes Mikey, I know sponges are even cheaper.......

That is my .02

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12 years 1 month ago #16740 by sawboy2
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Allow me to add to the derail here.  Ray,  do you have a fresh air return in that basement?  Makes a HUUUGE difference.  Also, if your landlord will allow you to,  putting up some 2x4's and insulation is super easy and pretty inexpensive.  You will certainly make your money back and then some the first cold month next year.

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12 years 1 month ago #16739 by rm-slover
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my electric bill is still in the $200's.


I'll trade ya


You got a wife, 2 kids, 2 dogs like 8 computers and a lot more house than i got.

The basement is just so not insulated well. I have a heat vent in the basement so the furnance is healping but not that much.

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