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Chicago water and Malagasy cichlids

10 years 10 months ago #22445 by Nuchal Man
The natural light thing sounds odd to me. I've found cooler water changes and high tank temps to work well for the Katria I had and for the Paratilapia sp., Ptychochromis grandidieri, and Ptychochromis oligacanthus I worked with at Ric Perez's place. Luckily Paretroplus are being bred semi-regularly by the few people keeping them now (which is great knowing many species face exinction).

Madagascans are weird fish in many aspects. One of these aspects is breeding. Honestly, I think a large part of successfully breeding Madagascans (and other fish) is providing an appropriate spawning site that the fish feel they can defend. If the pair doesn't feel comfortable and doesn't think the fry will survive, why put the high amounts of energy in to defend the spawning site. I think this may be a key reason some people find the eggs gone the next day after spawning. The parents probably eat them or abandon them.

Good luck with those P. macs.

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10 years 10 months ago #22444 by K.K.T.
I read an article about some people who were spawning paretroplus on a regular basis, they said they are seasonal, and that light the tank with natural sunlight from a window may have helped out.  ???who knows??? I'll try it.

As for the water, mine haven't been struggling at all. 

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12 years 7 months ago #2168 by Nuchal Man
Try salting. It couldn't hurt. Maybe it will get the menarambo past eggs. I heard something that the fry are prone to bacterial infections/diseases, and the salt helps this.

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12 years 7 months ago #2163 by duanest
Milwaukee and Chicago tap are the same as long as it's from L Michigan, and I use it straight from the tap except for a little dechlorinater.  I must admit I have only had total success with Ptychochromis.  My Paretroplus breed but never get past the egg stage so far.
I wonder if in breeding season, some rivers in Madagascar back up, bringing sea water inland enough to effect the spawning cycle. My menerambo seem to breed seasonally, maybe a water change with brackish is worth a try.



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12 years 7 months ago #2155 by Nuchal Man
Lots of salt. Otherwise the water is good. Ric Perez, Rick Borstein, and Scott Moreen, who all have success with ome Madagascans like paratilapia and ptychochromis all salt heavy. Otherwise, Lake Michigan tap pH and hardness is fine.

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12 years 7 months ago #2153 by Finnegan@large
To those of you who have shared success with Malagasy cichlids in the Chicago area, did you find it necessary to alter the water out of the tap or were you able to use Chicago tap water?

Also, is there a preference for clean water or "well used" water?

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