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9 years 1 month ago #33592 by BartlettBill

Replied by BartlettBill on topic Wild or F1? Be leery.

oops. I didn't mean to start a new topic. Sorry all.

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9 years 1 month ago #33591 by BartlettBill

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I see someone asked the name of my old company. Someone else mentioned quite fairly that this could turn into a "thinly veiled ad" & see your point. I can appreciate that. After considering both sides, however, only because I no longer own the place, I think it's okay to name the "store". They mostly sell to the public now & changed the name to Xzotic Aquatic World. They're at 745 N Edgewood, Wood Dale, 630-787-0277 but are moving in a month or two. I hope this is acceptable to most others that I name them. My conscience says it's alright, considering the circumstances. Besides, if I really wanted to advertise for the place, I wouldn't have dropped names initially.

Oh, in response to another question, Olde World Cichlids in Florida is a solid, reputable company & they import directly. I haven't seen their stock list in a long while & can't remember how much Malawian they sell, but I'm sure they'd send it to you. I have no vested interested in them either. Leif ,I think is his name. I was introduced to him years ago. He's a good guy.

I'm not familiar with the others mentioned, but that doesn't mean much.

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9 years 1 month ago #33590 by sawboy

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Subscribing.....don't want this to become a thinly veiled ad for anyone

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9 years 1 month ago #33589 by Lib95

Replied by Lib95 on topic Wild or F1? Be leery.

There seem to be more options for importers with Tanganyikan fish, but for wild Malawi fish I've always had good luck with Atlantis out of NY and "The Wet Spot" out in Portland, OR. They both import directly from Lake Malawi.

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9 years 1 month ago - 9 years 1 month ago #33588 by Senase

Replied by Senase on topic Wild or F1? Be leery.

Thanks for your knowledge BartlettBill, I was wondering what the location and name of the fish warehouse you used to own??? The reason I ask is because I'd love to go take a look . Also, If anyone was wanting to seek out wild caught african cichlids, is there a reputable importer anyone knows of??

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9 years 1 month ago #33587 by trucks4fish

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Hey Thanks for the heads up

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9 years 1 month ago - 9 years 1 month ago #33585 by scubadiver

Replied by scubadiver on topic Wild or F1? Be leery.

I would concur there are a few vendors that use that term to liberally.

It appears to be most abused when talking about tropheus, I would be very skeptical of any vendor selling wild tropheus in the chicagoland. Asking to see the packing list of original purchase is a good idea.

Also when fish are farm raised in Burundi they are also then sold sometimes as resold as wild.

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9 years 1 month ago #33583 by BartlettBill

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Anytime you see an ad for wild African fish or F1 fish, be leery that they truly are wild-caught (or 1st generation of wild-caught parents for F1's). Further, be even more leery of any person or local company that tells you they're an importer. There are only a handful of importers in the Chicago area and all of them have commercial locations.
I speak from experience. I owned a "fish warehouse" for 5 years. Many of you may be familiar with it. Anyway, we were direct importers of fish & other livestock. We imported from Bali, Jakarta, Columbia, Peru, Thailand, Malaysia, etc. over the years. However, Africa was just too expensive. Even with literally hundreds of tanks, we would have had to import quite a few fish (would always have had to be at least a dozen boxes in any importation) to make it worthwhile. Our client & prospect base was just not big enough for that. Granted, we eventually sold mostly marine fish/corals/inverts, but we sold an awful lot of freshwater fish over the years too.
Now, all of that being said, it's possible to buy from an actual importer out of state (usually L.A. or Florida), but make sure they're reputable. If in doubt, as to see papers. Packing list & import license copies aren't that much to ask for.

p.s. the fish warehouse I used to own is still in biz & is quite frankly much better than it ever has been. I encourage visiting them at least once.

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