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9 years 11 months ago #25295 by unklebilly
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My little kigoma is showing signs of bloating now. He tries to keep to himself isolated by perching in places of hiding. He is def not floating. He acts like he swallowed a few pebbles yet anytime I feed he zooms to the top of the tank to feed ravenously. 90% of the food sinks yet they really like feeding from the top. any thoughts on the bloated sinking instead of floating?

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10 years 2 weeks ago #24908 by unklebilly
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Ok I will keep the salt to a very minimum and let things be. YOu are right my setup is not ideal. I use to have one large male and two smaller females. Both females were eventually killed by the male (took 2 years to happen) NOw I have the big guy and 4 small fronts whom at the moment don't even interact. I am always astonished how passive the large front is with the exception of conspecific females. He has been with shell dwellers for years and never pays any mind.
that is quite a variation of opinion- 2 tbls for a 75 gallon or a cup per 10gal. or did you mean 2 tbls per gallon?

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10 years 2 weeks ago #24897 by mikeg2929
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Epsom salts is one of those "drugs" that if you feel compelled to use it, often it is too late anyways.

You can use a ton of it.  1 cup per ten gallons is okay. 

Fronts are a fish that enjoy company.  Big groups are better than small groups.  A fish languishing on the bottom sounds like a fish with an equilibrium problem, often caused by a bad swim bladder.  Some locations of fronts - burundi types and 7 stripe / kigoma types are very inbred and when that occurs, genetic defects often show up.

My advice - 78 degrees, and leave him alone.  If you start banging drugs and salt into the tank, you risk damaging it or the rest of the fish more. 

Leave him alone - it will cure or it wont without your intervention. 

my $.02

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10 years 2 weeks ago #24896 by dragonkeeper
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What is a safe max dosage with epsom salt?


I wouldn't go more than a tablespoon or 2. That should be enough.

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10 years 2 weeks ago #24894 by unklebilly
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What is a safe max dosage with epsom salt?

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10 years 2 weeks ago #24874 by unklebilly
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I have had larger fronts holding eggs in this setup so I always feel if fish are breeding then they are happy. So dither fish are not recommended for frontosas?
My fish is again acting peculiar sitting there just like an eretmodus. should I first try removing the giant danios? I would really hate to take them from their home. they do stay in the upper levels of the tank at all times while the fronts hang low. the shellies and the labs are both prolific with regular surviving fry and the fronts attempt breeding as well so I feel like I have a good thing going. Haven't epsom salted yet so I will try that first. thanks

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10 years 2 weeks ago #24805 by sawboy2
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Salt won't be an issue but I bet the danios are. Fronts are easy going "gliders". Danios are fast moving annoyng fish and I bet they are bothering the fronts. And the yellow labs with them are hit or miss as well.

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10 years 2 weeks ago #24802 by unklebilly
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you know the temp did change recently I accidentally bumped it moving the heater around. I know rapid temp change can cause swim bladder issues with fish but usually I associate that with floating instead of the sinking this little guy is doing. I have dropped the temp back down to normal 78 instead of 84 it rose to and he seems better for now but I will add epsom salt cause it is something I do every couple months anyway. Thanks for the help! If I observe any more anomalies I will continue posting on this. He is with other fronts yellow labs shellies giant danios and several synos in a 75gallon so the salt will be no problem right?

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10 years 2 weeks ago #24798 by whetfish
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I've never heard of such a small front getting float....But I suppose it could be possible.  Fronts should not feed off of the surface of the water, they should be given foods that sink.  IF, your front has float feed sinking foods and treat the tank with some epsom salt...light salt - 1/4 cup per 25g or heavy salt - 1/4 cup per 10g.  It's important to know that some tank mates may not do well with salt.  Plants for one do not like salt very much.

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10 years 2 weeks ago #24797 by jdubcichlids
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is the stomach large like its got a pocket of air?

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