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5 years 11 months ago #34249 by Malatang
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Once you have 10, 20, 30 tanks running you will want bare bottoms, to much work with rocks or sand. You will also want clay pots and pvc for hidy holes.

Its a lot of work to care for tanks, and it dosent get easier as you get more.

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5 years 11 months ago #34243 by ziggy2
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Bare bottom is just easier to clean. And the biggest plus, it doesn't hold any debris so it is easier to keep the water quality where you want it.

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5 years 11 months ago #34241 by Jim_
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I have been busy setting up my fish room I have most of my tanks I need to get the three 40. so I am going with 3-40 3-20 3-10 I have a 55 with discuse and a 55 with some of the smaller fish i pulled from my 120 show tank to see if they will color up because I am only going with males in there. I am also going to some day get 3 75 or 90 for grow out tanks. I plan to breed 3 species ruby red cause I love them, I am not sure what else yet I havent made up my mind. I just ordered a pump and sponge filters from jemhco, I bought some heaters from a wholesale guy from craigslist they are sunsun brand they where cheap but they heat the tank nice. I am not sure what I will do with lighting I am thinking the 1w led strips I can get them for about 50 bucks. also I just bought a t5 light for my 120 a dual it looks really nice on the tank, I wasnt really sure what to get for it I bought the light for my discuse then found out it was to much for them and put it on my 120. ok I am rambling now so I do have a couple ?

-I was wondering what is a good peacock I can breed and maybe a hep in the same tank?
-what light do you think is good for breeding tanks
-is it fine to put sand in my fry tanks and my 20 I just dont like the bare bottom what is the deal with breeders not using anything in there fry is it just cost or what.
-how is sand and sponge filters

I have alot more ? but I will leave it at that

thanks to everyone for your comments and help I hope this thread can continue and help me and others so Thanks to all
one more Tangerine tiger cichlids I like them alot how would they be to breed does anyone have them

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5 years 11 months ago #34223 by Kegger22
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mikeg2929 wrote: Loved those blues. I have been fooling around with a large tank and if i set it up it would probably house Mobas or one of the other blue ones. The problem now is i would have to pay retail - ouch!


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5 years 11 months ago #34222 by mikeg2929
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Hot fish are great if you can get them early, breed them and flip them.

Chicago was one of the first places where bristlenose plecos were bred in quantity. Ihad thousands of them and I was shipping hundreds a week in 2001, and had dropped off 12 - 15 boxes of cats and vics on 9/10/2001. Well over a $1000 in fish that cost me about nothing.

Most made it. Some took 4 - 5 days, and i only lost one male vic - ti took 7 days to reach boston. The guy was pissed, and i gave him a refund. Talk about crazy expectations.

Breed julies, bright red peacocks, bright yellow peacocks and yellow labs. When you have too many of them, a couple of guys in Michigan will give you a buck a piece at an inch so you can unload your excess.

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5 years 11 months ago #34221 by Malatang
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I like "crowd sourcing" idea, instead of having 30 people trying to sell the same fish, have one preson that does the retail side of the business and the others concentrate on one or two types and wholesale to the one.

That's something I have never understood about LFS not wanting to tap local breeders for their stock (I'm sure there are some that do). I have even thought of a conscienment deal, set up accounts with local breeders where they bring in fish and when they sell, split what they sell for, the breeder and store would have to allow a percentage for loss, but no biggie.

I would see it as a win, win breeder gets to move their fish, LFS dosent have to pay for the fish up front. Everyone gets paid in the end.

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5 years 11 months ago #34220 by chefjimmy
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I do recall a time, when I was shipping fish. I was making $300-500 a week. That was the revenue after the shipping being paid. I'm sure I was also spending plenty of money on supplies and food.

The only problem was, it was the biggest pain in the butt, and very time consuming. I was miserable, with lots of extra cash.

I had the hot fish, and it went cold fast. Hot fish, only last so long, then your stuck.

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5 years 11 months ago #34210 by Jim_
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Ok now where getting some good answers , it is kinda what I thougjt about people not wanting more to share the info.
I think that is what I am going to do breed a couple fish I like and see where it goes.
I know there is a lot of choses around hee but who is the best source to buy qaulity fish from.

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5 years 11 months ago #34209 by scubadiver
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Here are some random thoughts -

How hard you work, how detail oriented you are, how organized you are and how much of a salesperson you are can help you make money.

There are some people that earn money they are very hardworking and have a great name and are known for excellent quality fish.

I am pretty sure the big names in the area make some money -

They have full on businesses and lots of them, import fish and buy fish from wholesalers rather than breed them.

If you can buy from a good wholesaler 1.5 inch peacocks, cost between $1 to $3 a piece, shipping costs are minimum of $!50 usually. And you have to buy 18 of each type of fish.

Their are people on the classifieds that appear to have a source from wholesalers, (meaning I am pretty confident they did bot breed these fish), crowd their fish, set up tanks with huge water changes and just order fish at the beginning of the swap season and then sell them.

I think I remember one of speakers giving a presentation and saying if you want to earn money try raising aquatic plants. If I am correct it was Laif Demason and he said they all had BMW's and left work at 4pm.

At the ACA two years ago I made all money on Baby pleco's but cichlids sold for nothing. Again I was still negative cash-flow.

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5 years 11 months ago #34208 by mikeg2929
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Maybe you are right. At his prices, he should be making money.

Good luck.

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