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Review help with stock list for 220 Gallon aquarium

2 years 7 months ago #36552 by Kegger22

Joeyo wrote:
1. 1M, 3F Otopharynx lithobates - (Zimbawe Rock)
2. 1M, 3F Protomelas taeniolatus (Red) Super Red Empress
3. 1M, 3F Aulonocara jacobfreibergi (Undu Reef) Lemon Jake
4. 1M, 3F Pseudotropheus sp. "Acei" (Msuli) Yellow Tail Acei
5. 1M, 3F Placidochromis sp. Jalo
6. 1M, 3F Haplochromis sp. ruby
7. 1M, 3F Copadichromis azereus


Here is the senerio I see happening:
Male#2 1st takes out male #7 and then 5 and then beats the tar out of Male#1
Male#6 takes out male #3 and then Male#4
Male #1 then becomes a ping pong ball until wiped out between# 2 and #6

That should leave you with 21 females( that's if they don't get stressed out and caught in the crossfire) and 2 males

What I explain to people that come to me wanting a "show" tank is this:

You and your buddies are having a great time in the bar having a few drinks and a georgous woman walks in.....what happens?
Yup, you guessed it, a bar room brawl.... my suggestion is just go all male and you will have a much better rate of survival

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2 years 7 months ago #36548 by scubadiver
I did not like the appearance of the fish

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2 years 7 months ago #36547 by IndecisiveCichlidKeeper
Ugly as in mean or didn't like the appearance?

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2 years 7 months ago #36546 by scubadiver
Ah things are so subjective the lawsi I had were so ugly.

Ok if you want it for beauty my recommendation is to start with six to eight young fish of each species and keep two males from each and sell or get rid of the others.

If a fish has other fish of its own species to be dominant over when young they tend to have the best colors.

When I had my show tank two males of each always worked out the best.

Yellow labs really add color and are not too aggressive but cant be bullied.

Taiwan reef are beautiful fish, lemon jakes, ngara, undo reefs, benga peacocks, zrocks are all great fish

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2 years 7 months ago #36545 by IndecisiveCichlidKeeper
The previous recommendations are a good idea. An awesome hearty mbuna with extremely low aggression that is my favorite is Gephyrochromis lawsi. I know Datz Cichlids has them locally. The males get a real deep royal blue with a gold crest from the head to the dorsal.

One of the few mbuna species that I have kept where multiple males would always be fully colored up and never see any aggression. They wouldn't be an issue with the haps/aulonocara aggression wise.

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2 years 7 months ago #36542 by joeyo
Goal - Colored Cichlids - Not trying to breed, but that's always a plus. I have made some nice investments into this setup and plan to focus as a display tank for myself, family and friends. I plan to buy fish from breeders within GCCA and because of my limited exposure to varieties outside of the more common species, I'm turning to you for guidance honestly. I take my hobbies pretty seriously and invest where required. Stunning fish are worth it to me if they will color up and are from a good strain. Send me a pm if you can help me further.

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2 years 7 months ago #36541 by scubadiver
First of all having one male is not a good idea - you will get more spawning and better colors for everyone if there is at least two males for each species. Generally then it appears that a male is alway dominant over another male.

Second what is your goal? Color, variety, community, etc are you starting with young fish and growing them up.

Is your goal to breed any of the fish -

How deep are your pockets? Not trying to be rude but obtaining some fish that I could recommend could be costly.

If you start with young fish and grow up eight fish of each species you will end up with much prettier fish





Zrocks and Red Empress tend to be a little on the tougher side (the Aulonocara Yellow Jakes are really tough but beautiful).

I would recommend one of the Copidochromis with black bottoms and blue tops (there are about five species / location variants like that). Copidochromis mloto red line Nsisi, Copidochromis trewavassae Lupingu,Copidochromis trewavassae Likoma, Copidochromis trewavassae Misisi, etc. They tend to be tougher and also the fry are worth something.

Note most of the time Red Empress which are beautiful fish you cant give the fry away.

Placidochromis johnstoni solo have stripes and are pretty -

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2 years 7 months ago #36540 by joeyo
Thank you for the response/help.

1M, 3F Otopharynx lithobates - (Zimbawe Rock)
2. 1M, 3F Protomelas taeniolatus (Red) Super Red Empress

What would be some good substitutes outside of the yellow labs that would mix well with the above - these 2 are my true favorites overall.

Please let me know.

Thanks, Joe

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2 years 7 months ago #36538 by scubadiver
The two sets of peacocks could be a problem especially as the ruby reds are line bred, the females seem ready to cross breed quickly.

Also some of the haps are similar in color

I would ad some yellow labs for color and they mix well with other fish. Just get a good strain where the males get the nice black on their pectoral fins.

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2 years 7 months ago #36537 by joeyo
Hello Fellow Aquarist,


Currently I'm setting up my 220 gallon aquarium, and hopefully will start cycling this week. I'm looking for help with my list of Cichlids below, to ensure this particular community.will work long term together.

With a 1 to 3 ratio - Any cautions from the list below - aggression, cross-breeding, not enough females, too many fish etc..
First off, the tank is 72l x 24d x 29h, lighting 6 - 24" truelumen 12k white/blue mix LED bars, PFS-sand substrate, 3D rock background. Still planning out type of rocks for creating shelter / breeding spaces - flat flagstone and similar smooth flat rock. Wanting to make sure I take advantage of the height also which is the biggest challenge. Maybe tall silk plants.

1. 1M, 3F Otopharynx lithobates - (Zimbawe Rock)
2. 1M, 3F Protomelas taeniolatus (Red) Super Red Empress
3. 1M, 3F Aulonocara jacobfreibergi (Undu Reef) Lemon Jake
4. 1M, 3F Pseudotropheus sp. "Acei" (Msuli) Yellow Tail Acei
5. 1M, 3F Placidochromis sp. Jalo
6. 1M, 3F Haplochromis sp. ruby
7. 1M, 3F Copadichromis azereus

Really appreciate your feedback on the mix.

Thanks, Joe

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