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Angelfish issues

9 years 8 months ago #24205 by WhiteDevil
Replied by WhiteDevil on topic Angelfish issues
I will artificial hatch as well, I got a 15g set up for that purpose due to the corydoras having an all out spawnfest two weeks ago when I did that weekly PWC. 5 degrees seems to be the magic number to induce this form of behavior in fish, works great on the guppies and the angels respond with laying as well cept the angels eat their eggs and all the others, the dora's arent big enough to fend off the psycho angels.

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9 years 8 months ago #24200 by klassichobbies
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its not a problem, i enjoy talking with other breeders. for blackworms, visit your local petstore. i dont think petsmart or petco will have any, but other less retail shops might have live. theres always frozen though. and the little guys should do ok, maybe add another thick plant and more cover, but yes redecorating is in order. if your trying to breed eventually, the snails and cories might be a problem. they like to munch eggs. ive got 2 spawns coming up now, and 2 older ones at pea and than half dollar size. we artificially hatch so there is minimal loss. any other ?'s....?

Klassic

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9 years 8 months ago #24189 by WhiteDevil
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Who sells blackworms around here? I find tons of blood and trout worms but no blackworms.


In the 40gT it is planted with live plants, has a 1" layer of sand down then half the floor is bigger black rock that is piled good for fry hiding. it had driftwood and a tri color rock and a good heavy chunk of petrified wood, oak leafs do litter the floor as to replicate natural amazon habitat. the tank mates are as follows
tons of guppies( natural renewable food source for bigger fish hence why they are in the tank with the gups)
3 pygmy corydoras

tons of MTsnails.

filtration is an ac50 and ac20 hob as well as an I40 tetra filled with sponge and filter floss
lighting is a 3' 20w and a 18'15w 

parameters are all perfect actually but Ph in that tank is around an 8.0 to an 8.4 and the tank my big angels are in (Ike and Tina Turner respectively) is at around a 7 maybe 6.4 at the lowest now.

I have ZERO issues with turning the 40gT back into a rio negro tank like it was before the wifes guppy idea took over, if that will help I will start the process, I have all the stuff to set it back up as BW.


Now, when I introduce the little guys to the big tank it would be safe to assume I have to rescape it to prevent or atleast lessen the territorial aggressions , correct?

I do appreciate the time spent, I cant talk fish with anyone else really. No one else gives a hoot.

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9 years 8 months ago #24142 by klassichobbies
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it my opinion, it depends on the food you feed them, the tank space, the tank parameters (temp, pH, etc), tank mates and believe it or not, decor and substrate. So it really depends on what you have. but in a 40 g tall, they should get big quick if you keep up with them. blackworms are ideal!

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9 years 8 months ago #24126 by WhiteDevil
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I have 4 little guys including a for sure blue growing up in a 40g tall right now, my two are huge 6-8" easily in height not counting the curb feelers.

How long does it take for angels to get to adult size? I know mine were stunted in a smaller tank then went to the big one and pretty much grew up within a few weeks.

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9 years 8 months ago #24114 by klassichobbies
Replied by klassichobbies on topic Angelfish issues
add more angels, preferably close in size. it really helps with aggression especially if theres multiple males. males tend to go for other males than females. my tank is a 75 with about 20-25 angels varying from quarter sized to about 5 inch bodied males. in the last few months ive gotten 3 spawns from three different pairs. i also have several tetras in there as dithers. angles that are large tend to be pricey, so it might be time to start new unless you want to dish out some cash.

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9 years 9 months ago #23830 by WhiteDevil
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You could try adding in some dithers/targets to take up some of the aggressive energy.

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They are in with quite a few other fish or are you  meaning more angels? I have 4 more growing up right now in my guppy fry tank.

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9 years 9 months ago #23829 by dragonkeeper
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You could try adding in some dithers/targets to take up some of the aggressive energy.

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9 years 9 months ago #23824 by WhiteDevil
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No idea's?

I know there are alot of breeders on here that can give me some advice. Im near wits end with these two, I seperate them then they stare at eachother from afar and dont do anything but stare till they are back together, they "cuddle" for a few days then back to fighting.

Please help.

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9 years 9 months ago #23727 by WhiteDevil
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Hi


Here is the tank

52g FBH planted blackwater RUGF +AC70 HOB and an AC20PH for circulation.

They have layed over a dozen times and ferted over a dozen times, now the fish do nothing but beat the snot out of eachother, My female is dead center of the tank and water column flaring and my male is stuck in the right corner of the tank. This has been an ongoing issue with these two, first he got her for a few weeks, then she fought back and has since had him at bay.

he eats and poops and swims about he is healthy other then the domestic violence stress as is she but what can I do as a keeper to keep the peace?
I mean its bad enough where they EARNED the names Ike and Tina and whats real bad is the other fish go into hiding when a fight breaks out between Ike and Tina.

I dont want to part with them as they are about 4 years old and Ive had em since they were nickel size.

Thanks

My water parameters are fine, decor in the tank is DW and live plants.

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