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Enantiopus or Xenotilapia?

9 years 1 month ago #27070 by Nuchal Man
It wouldn't yet be considered a valid species because it hasn't yet been scientifically described and until it is, it is just an undescribed species or race. I think many scientists and hobbyists would say it probably represents another species. I also think that Enantiopus is valid and that these are the two species in the genus. I don't know a whole lot about Xenotilapia, Enantiopus, and friends, but if the kilesa have a different bower structure than that of E. melanogenys I would think that a similar method to what they did with Malawian Haplochromis and their taxonomy where Stauffer and Konings did a lot of research on the shape and construction of the bowers for many species.

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9 years 1 month ago #27060 by mikeg2929
The other question is - is species name valid.  Many consider the kilesa to be a geographic variant of the melonogenys (spelling).  The species are virtually identical, colors are different of course.  A big difference is the kilesa males will build little pyramids of sand around it's bower.

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9 years 1 month ago #27052 by Les
Replied by Les on topic Enantiopus or Xenotilapia?
Thanks Sam. That is about as clear as it can be until something changes. At least I know I am looking at the right fish.

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9 years 1 month ago - 9 years 1 month ago #27045 by Nuchal Man
Depends on how you look at Enantiopus and whether it is a valid genera or not. Takahashi did a 2003 phylogeny of Xenotilapia in 2003 and thought that Enantiopus was a synonym of Xenotilapia. I'm not aware of any recent work on this group of fishes. Personally I disagree with Takahashi on making Enantiopus a synonym of Xenotilapia and think it is a distinct genus (Many of his papers don't seem thoroughly done, ex. the Benthochromis paper). I think many hobbyists agree with this and still would list it as Enantiopus. Hopefully that clears it up a little.

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9 years 1 month ago #27044 by Les
In a recent GCCA classified ad some fry were posted for sale ID'd as Enantiopus sp. "Kilesa".  I am unfamiliar with this fish and did some on-line research and there was some confusion (if only on my part).  One source referred to the fish as Xenotilapia sp. "Kilesa" (ex-Enantipus sp. "Kilesa") while others seemed to imply the opposite is true.  What is the current valid genus name for this species?

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