During the auction, I tried to show folks the videos of "GuapoteMel" (out of the Seattle area) of his breeding istlantum pair and fry. Here is a link. Just incredible looking, note that the variant sold Sunday from Conkel was red in color, and may look similar to Mel's variant. I recommend watching all 21 videos (at this writing) that he has posted on youtube - just wonderful footage of super-cool Central American species. His video of his male dovii is the "stuff." He also passes along a wealth of information - so get a cup of coffee and enjoy.