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7 years 8 months ago #32466 by chrissfishes
I finally got two species off the list.

7 F2 Neetroplus nematopus "Lago Nicaragua" Parents were from Jeff Rapps
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6 Hericthys bartoni

I was wondering is there anything I need to know about keeping/breeding bartoni and the Neets? I have heard they are aggressive and was wondering if there are any tricks to breeding aggressive fish successfully in aquariums without losing a female or male due to aggression. Also, here is three videos of the Neets. The first two is when I first got them in the beginning of April and the 3rd is current and a video of the bartoni fry and a link to a thread of the Bartoni parents of my fry. They look pure but no collection data. Could you see if they look pure? No spawns yet for the Neets.
Thank you very much! Take care!
Chris

Neets

s100.photobucket.com/albums/m20/cichlid_...current=MOV02259.mp4

s100.photobucket.com/albums/m20/cichlid_...current=MOV02260.mp4

s100.photobucket.com/albums/m20/cichlid_...current=MOV02291.mp4

Bartoni

Thread
www.cichlid-forum.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=237746

Video of the fry
s100.photobucket.com/albums/m20/cichlid_...current=MOV02290.mp4

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8 years 7 months ago #30797 by chrissfishes
Thank you very much for the help! That is really cool that they will breed at a young size. I really love Bartoni. I think they are a very beautiful and fun looking fish. That is crazy! I have heard they are aggressive but didn't know they are that aggressive. I always keep a divider handy with any cichlid. Ok sounds great! Thanks again!

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8 years 7 months ago #30789 by Nuchal Man
Bartoni will breed small, around 2.5" or so. They'll turn jet black in breeding colors and everything. This can be done in a 40 beeder. As they get older, they become quite aggressive. A group of 5 I had at around 4" turned into a group of 3 rather quickly in a 110 gallon tank. They are tough suns of guns, and I'd keep them in at least a 6 footer unless you divide the tank to spawn them.

Scott, I've found the best way to keep the Tuba less aggressive is lots of current, which they are used to anyway. I've got a few sponge filters and an airstone going full blast in their tank. There are a few stones for them to hide behind, but otherwise, they are pretty much in a lap pool.

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8 years 7 months ago #30788 by chrissfishes
Sorry about the talk of shipping and delivery on here! I will for sure use PM for that. That's great news that Bartoni are somewhat available! When I finally get some room opened I think I will look for Bartoni, myrnae, and neets next. I know I said T.wesseli in the first post but it might be a bit before I get my hands on a 6ft tank and I will have to start small first. I have several 3 ft and 4 ft tanks. Just for future reference do you think a 40 gal breeder could house a pair of Bartoni or would it have to be a 55 or 75? I have heard they are rather aggressive but max out around 6-8 inches. I have kept and bred 2 pairs of Salvini with no problems. One in a 55 gal and the other in a 40 gal breeder. I will for sure do that for the wesseli when I get a hold of some and get the tank for them. That's really cool that your tuba are wild caught! Yeah I remember seeing your thread on the tuba back in March. Wow! The tuba might have to be a little bit of a wait for me. I could possibly get my hands on a six foot tank in a few years but anything bigger might be longer. I also always wanted to have a pair of Dovii but that as well will be future plans. Thank you very much for everything!

My Cryptoheros cutteri spawn is going great. The fry are almost out of the wriggler stage. I covered the intake tube to my filter so the fry won't get sucked up. I also noticed the pair had a hard time keeping the other fish away from the spawn so I chased the other fish away with a net and put a divider up. They are in a 55 gal. The other fish are some other juvie cutteri and a specie of goodeid. In the past when I had cutteri I have noticed the same thing that they are very skittish fish. The pair and others were skittish before I setup the divider but now that I put the net in there and everything it seems they are even more so. I have even noticed the pair completely abandoning the spawn and going crazy and hiding. They go right back to the spawn when I leave the room and watch them from a distance. I know this is their first time spawning and will get better as they spawn more but I was wondering is their anything I can do to help make them more comfortable and less skittish or will that go away as they get older or is this common and will always happen?  Thanks again!

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8 years 7 months ago #30786 by baldtaxguy
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Interesting on the tuba aggression, but not many folks have been keeping these.  Maybe go intense pvc sleeves so that you don't lose any as they grow out.

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8 years 7 months ago #30785 by sawboy2
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Guys. Please take any talk of shipping and delivery to pm's please. "Monkey see, monkey do" mentality will set in.

Thanks.

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8 years 7 months ago #30784 by Nuchal Man
I don't currently ship, but I occasionally will bring fish to Chicago. Wesseli are very cool fish, I agree with scott, not very aggressive, but very cool to watch in a longer tank due to their speed and swimming habits. Bartoni are somewhat available, I know a few people in the club who bred this fish not to long ago. The tuba I have are wild caught babies and won't be breeding for at least another year or two, they are destined for a 8 foot 220 gallon. 6 foot tank is almost to cramped for them and they are highly aggressive fish, even when young.

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8 years 7 months ago - 8 years 7 months ago #30783 by chrissfishes
Hi!
They are all great and beautiful fish! I look forward to getting a hold of them. That sounds like a good plan for the wesseli. I will keep that in mind. Wesseli, bartoni, and tuba are for sure on top of my list but I really like all CA fish. They are all beautiful and interesting in their own way.
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8 years 7 months ago #30781 by baldtaxguy
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Hello, Chris, welcome to the forum.  Those are some good species to target once you have the room.  I think there are a number of us that would also like to get our hands on some tuba, quite an interesting and attractive looking species.  The others have made their way through the club over the years, and as Sam pointed out, he has most of them today.  Neets are very cool fish, especially if you have reduced space.  If you get your hands on a 6-foot tank, a group of wesseli is the way to go - not for their size but their swimming speed.  Wesseli rocket through the tank and are almost impossible to net. The coolest of the Theraps species imo. 

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8 years 7 months ago #30780 by chrissfishes
Oh wow that's cool! Do you by chance ship? When I have room open of course.

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