Not enough time for pics yet, but this weekend I moved my group of 8 hogaboomorum into their own 75g and they have started to show some real personality. I had them buried for 7 months in a bottom tank with chanchos as dithers (!) since the ACA in July, and they are now 4 inches with each fish having wonderful long trailers, and intact at that. These were brought in by Mo Devlin so I'm really looking forward to their development - you can see his wonderful pics of the parents throughout other boards. I have added the capped PVC sleeves to this tank so I'm anticipating some breeding may happen by Spring. I'll get some pics put together when time permits.