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Greenwater auction this Sunday

10 years 11 months ago #13701 by sawboy2
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any ideas before i open this thing up?


Just one,  make sure it's unplugged!  :o

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10 years 11 months ago #13700 by acer
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ok sofar i've been told might be capacitor not charging, ive looked on hamiltons website & looks like it is readily available. does aonyone know how i would able to test to see what doesnt work? i have basic electricity skills so i might be able to make it a quick fix, and i do have a multimeter. any ideas before i open this thing up?

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10 years 11 months ago #13632 by Kegger22

Sounds like you bought a salt water light.  Give it a once over before you let it run for 12 hours a day.  Lots of these lights corrode and you could find yourself with a problem in a hurry if the thing shorts


im gonna be using it for a 30 gal planted tank that i have if i can ever figure out if it works.. it turns on for like 20 sec, bulb glows then gets a little brighter ( looks like dawn in tank) then just dies out, the fans stay on, the flourescents work but the mh dies... i have no idea how to trouble shoot this without going out and buying a $70 bulb  >:( if anyone has any ideas please pm me i hate jacking threads..


if the bulb has fired up to at least a dawn look as you say multiple times there is nothing wrong with the bulb, my guess is that the culprit is the ballast which cannot sustain the power that the bulb needs to warm up and glow properly

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10 years 11 months ago #13631 by acer
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Sounds like you bought a salt water light.  Give it a once over before you let it run for 12 hours a day.  Lots of these lights corrode and you could find yourself with a problem in a hurry if the thing shorts


im gonna be using it for a 30 gal planted tank that i have if i can ever figure out if it works.. it turns on for like 20 sec, bulb glows then gets a little brighter ( looks like dawn in tank) then just dies out, the fans stay on, the flourescents work but the mh dies... i have no idea how to trouble shoot this without going out and buying a $70 bulb  >:( if anyone has any ideas please pm me i hate jacking threads..

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10 years 11 months ago #13622 by Tolak
Dgarnier;  As I stated, we try to get them up there in a fashion where they will bring the best price.  Try.  When I see large discus go up for sale at 2:30 or so, it got overlooked.  At a busy auction some of those bags are nearly double stacked, it’s tough to see a bag under a bag.  Again, as I stated, we do have to mix it up a bit, or the first half hour would be nothing but discus, L number plecs, and probably large tanks or more expensive hardware.  Nobody is trying to hold anyone’s bags back, we are not that sort of club, and as busy as that auction was, we don’t have the time to be pulling crap like that.  If I’m pulling bags I do not pull my own items, I’m sure if I did it could give the impression of unfairness.

  If a member other than the few members in back pulls a couple of bags to go on sale it was more than likely ok’d by the auction chair.  That decision has to be respected.  The members in back that are pulling bags have been doing it for a long time, if they sucked at it we would assign other members that task.  Runners will also hear bidders talking as they run bags, if they overhear someone saying they are interested in a box of rocks or decorative lumber they are bound to mention it when they get back up to the table.

  The Sergeant At Arms in any organization is in charge of keeping order.  I didn’t see any disorder, our Sergeant At Arms must have been doing his job.

  Hey Bob, I did plug in the powerhead I bought, it does work, the controls for flow are pretty stiff though.  $7 for an Aqua Clear 70, I can’t complain, I plan on running it wide open anyway.


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10 years 11 months ago #13618 by
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Sounds like you bought a salt water light.  Give it a once over before you let it run for 12 hours a day.  Lots of these lights corrode and you could find yourself with a problem in a hurry if the thing shorts.

Check the wires, connectors, end caps, etc.  Or better yet, drop it off at my house and I'll test it for you for the next 2 or 3 years....

Great find.....if it works.

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10 years 11 months ago #13609 by acer
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i  made out like a bandit with a 175 watt metal halide & 2 30 watt flourescent fixture by hamilton, was complete, i might have to replace the bulb though. i paid $25 for it! i also picked up a couple of bags or rare livebearers. i think all in all, the auctions gw have are always pretty good.

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10 years 11 months ago #13602 by dgarnier

  Hey folks, back again.
Dgarnier;  I think you have a bit of a misunderstanding as to how our auctions are run.  Let me try to eliminate this cf for you.  You come in the door with your items for sale, are given a seller sheet to fill out.  You are then given an item list sheet, with 2 or 3 letters specific to your items.  You list the items in any sequence that is best for you.  Each item has a number in sequence.  This is not the sequence they are auctioned in.

  You are then checked in by a club member, just to make sure the number of items, and the number listed corresponds.  After this you are given colored dots, 3 different colors, 1/3 of each color for the number of bags you have.  In your case you would have gotten 2 dots of each of the 3 colors.

  It is up to the seller to put the dots on the items they would like to have on each of the tables.  It is completely guaranteed that your first 1/3 of the items you have for sale will be sold during the first 1/3 of the auction, the second 1/3 of the items during the second 1/3 of the auction, the third 1/3 of the items during the final 1/3 of the auction.


yes, thats how the bags were checked in and seemed to work out just fine.  The issue I have is that all 6 of my bags came up in the last third of each color.  now I checked in a but after 10, and steve checked in around 11.  He had 10 - 12 and his also came up in the last third of each of the colors.  I know it there were a lot of bags, but we sat back a watched 2 people in perticu;lar pick bagsfrom the back tables to bring to the front table.  Now steve and I both had cichlids none of which were rare or uncommon.  I have some yellow labs, bachrdi, ngara and a jake.  Steve had some really nice acei and cant remember the others.  But when our first color bags came up my 2 went for 9$ and his were 12 - 16$ each, quite a bit more then the guppies, sword tails, box of rocks, bag of old heater, 20 year old mags, broken power heads, or 2x6's attached to slate.


Also what is the point of a sargent of arms in a fish club?

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10 years 11 months ago #13601 by Tolak
  Hey Bob, on occasion we will find a bag on the next set of tables that should really be sold.  What happens most often is someone viewing the bags will not understand that each set of tables is a certain color sequence.  They will pick up a bag from one set of tables, hold it up, show it to their buddies, turn around and place it on the wrong set of tables.  I really wish we had the room there to keep the tables at one level it would be easier to catch someone doing this, which is usually by accident.  Confirming the color tag is one of the things the folks at the tables do, some of them have a fit if the wrong color shows up.

  The auction chair is in charge of any variations, last I looked she didn’t look a thing like Schneider.  Unless he was told by her to do something that would be considered a variation, he was wrong.  He really is a good guy, and means to do the best for the club, at times rules be damned.  I tend to follow procedure a bit more.  I know of at least one seller that was trying to pull a fast one on the club, folks sometimes will switch color dots on bags, or even bring in their own.  If he sensed that this or something of the sort was being done, and the club or chair was being taken advantage of, he’s the do, don’t think type, sort it out later. 

  I have a low tolerance for rudeness.  Sometimes assertiveness is needed, this can be perceived as rudeness, not having been involved personally I can’t make that call.  You are right that it is impossible to make everyone happy, if someone does have to be unhappy I like to see it accompanied with a reasonable explanation.

  As that wood ages it might not look too bad, I have a plain pine bench outside that took on a nice dark grayish patina after a few years.

  If it was marked as working, or was not marked not working or parts it should work.  If you give me the seller letter we can look into it.  We have had this happen before, the usual excuse is that it worked the last time they used it.

  I bought a powerhead off of the last table, haven’t plugged it in yet, I probably should.

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10 years 11 months ago #13600 by sawboy2
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Hi Tolak.  The oddities in question were the fact that bags were coming off of various tables.  We were also told that "Schneider" was in charge of "Auction Variation".  Which I can assume you explained in your post as trying to bring the bags that will bring better money at the time.

All in all,  I had a good time,  and would come again.  Like I said,  my only problem was the fact that Dave and the lady he was speaking with were having a very amicable conversation when the other guy stepped in and acted quite rudely.  Swaps and auctions are very difficult things I am sure.....and we all know the old saying,  "You can't please everybody",  but stupid comments like those are unacceptable.

And yes,  in hindsight,  that piece of driftwood upon closer inspection is bad.  Oh well.

One last thing though that really pisses me off.  One of the items I bought was a powerhead.  It doesn't work.  I know all about "Caveat Emptor" but c'mon........putting stuff that doesn't work in an auction is just plain bad.  I kept the bag in question so if you want to track the item number to the seller,  I can give it to you.  I am not looking for the $5 back obviously,  but I would love to tell the guy he sold something that he most assuredly knew did not work.


Bob

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