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7 years 1 month ago #32884 by Mzielinski311
Exactly the reactions I'd expect down to a tee. I am a paying member, which does help the GCCA in its own way, but thought a different, new perspective would help from a somewhat younger member (lower 30's). You guys should be open to that if you are representative of the organization as a whole. Everyone has to start somewhere and 12 posts or 100 shouldn't matter so that's irrelevant. Actually pretty silly. There are better ways to do things and this auction is one potential area whether you agree or not. My primary question wasn't really answered though- why is a seller list, regardless of auction order, prior to the auction out of the question?

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7 years 1 month ago #32882 by sawboy
Ya'd think that after 38 years Wilpir wouldn't lead the "re-bag / DOA" list every auction!!! LMAO!!!!

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7 years 1 month ago #32881 by wilpir
I agree with Sawboy 100% and I'm not even a member but everybody pretty much knows me..I've been going to the fish auctions for 38yrs!! and it always enjoyable..and you never ever sell fish in catergorized lots ..as Sawboy said at the end prices generally drop and if those where your bags you'd be pissed and never show up again!! They have to be doing something right for my ornery old arse to show up for 38yrs!!!!!!

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7 years 1 month ago #32880 by sawboy
Come work an auction and you'll see why none of the above will work. All auctions are hit or miss. And again, if your fish were of a specific category and was LAST when prices are LOW, would you ever sell again?????

Feel free to come volunteer. We need all the help we can get. If after seeing it, you think your plan will work, join he club, help at a few events, get involved, and then ask to be appointed auction chairman, and implement your plan.

Until then, it will stay as it has been.....which by the way has been extremely successful.

And I don't mean to sound like an arse, but you sound like a guy trying to reinvent the wheel to make his own personal experience better. With only 12 posts and to my knowledge, never having helped at any events, your suggestions carry little weight.

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7 years 1 month ago #32879 by Mzielinski311
Bob, while it's true that I haven't been on the "work side" of an auction, I have been on the buyer side which can be equally frustrating. I tried to be brief, but see my responses in red (hopefully they show up in red).

1st: Do you have any idea how long it would take to organize bags by species? And then the issue of what species goes first becomes a major problem.If there were a list of what the sellers were bringing (see #3), approximate time slots could be provided where a given species would be up for auction. You could then randomly use the current policy of assigning color stickers within a general species group. This would be beneficial for both buyer and seller and would provide everyone with a rough estimate of how long the auction would be (time commitment).

2nd: If not being able to see everything the sellers bring because of the number of bags is an issue, that's a GOOD thing. Means it's a well populated auction. A well populated auction doesn't necessarily translate to a happy buyer if someone is looking for a certain species that either isn't available or doesn't come up for bidding until well into the auction (which makes the priority tags meaningless). Essentially what you're saying is that if someone is looking for a specific species, the auction is hit or miss.

3rd: Having a list of what each person is bringing is laughable as at least 25% of sellers fill out their labels AT the auction. That's why I suggested having a lock-out period where sellers list what they are bringing ahead of time (similar to what most sellers do for the swap meets). This is the primary factor in what I'm suggesting. This would be beneficial to the buyer.

4th: Back to your order of lakes. What about Barombe Mbo? Centrals? Souths? etc. Imagine being the guy with the Tangs and ALL your bags go last when prices historically drop? Think you'd come back and sell your fish??? See response to #1.

I felt a response was warranted, but my main point is why would a buyer attend an auction if the species he wanted wasn't available and he didn't find out until the end? Even if you don't agree with anything I wrote, why can't a seller list be made available prior to the auction? Takes any surprises out of the picture (ideally).

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7 years 1 month ago #32875 by Indian Woods
If you bring a cooler that helps as a lot of times in the cooler months the temperatures are what hurts them. Get most tropicals below 68 to 65 F and you start setting them up for issues.

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7 years 1 month ago #32874 by sawboy

hawkeyeace44 wrote: How long will fish last in a bag? Does a cooler help them live longer?


Properly prepared:

No food two days before bagging
Fresh water to bag in
1/3 water, 2/3 air

A fish will last 24-36 hours based on size

If o2 is used in bag, 3-5 days depending on size.

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7 years 1 month ago - 7 years 1 month ago #32873 by sawboy
Mzielinski, I am guessing you've never been on the "work" side of an auction. What you suggest is almost 100% impossible.

1st: Do you have any idea how long it would take to organize bags by species? And then the issue of what species goes first becomes a major problem.

2nd: If not being able to see everything the sellers bring because of the number of bags is an issue, that's a GOOD thing. Means it's a well populated auction.

3rd: Having a list of what each person is bringing is laughable as at least 25% of sellers fill out their labels AT the auction.

4th: Back to your order of lakes. What about Barombe Mbo? Centrals? Souths? etc. Imagine being the guy with the Tangs and ALL your bags go last when prices historically drop? Think you'd come back and sell your fish???

Feel free to show up about 8:00 am on Auction day and pitch in, and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Bob

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7 years 1 month ago #32872 by Mzielinski311
I guess that's what I was getting at - wouldn't it be easier for the buyer if the auction was based on species instead of random color tags which could represent anything? I attended the last auction (the first one for me) and it was difficult to see everything that sellers brought ahead of time simply because there were so many bags. Also, and similar to the swap meets, it should be possible to obtain an auction list of what sellers will be bringing in advance so buyers will know what's available. The auction order (e.g., Malawian species, Tanganyikan, Victorian, etc.) could then be based off of that so there would be some semblance of order.

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7 years 1 month ago #32871 by hawkeyeace44
How long will fish last in a bag? Does a cooler help them live longer?

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