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7 years 3 months ago #33144 by Fishfoolery
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Nuchal Man,

You really know your Cichlids! On occasion, the Johanii will give chase to the Msobo, but most of the time the Johanii will keep to himself. This one is pretty mello compared to others I seen. I had the same worries about the Peacocks, but I'll just wait and see. You'll probably be right though.

The main squabbles in the the tank, however, are between the Blue Ahli and the Protomelas sp. In the past few months the arguments don't go any further than a hard look and some flashing of the colors, so hopefully with the bigger tank it will be even more controlled.

I've got extra tanks laying around just in case :)

As far as cycling, I used some water from the old tank and some new. Started with about 10 mbunas and they became familiar with the tank before the next 10 went in the following week. Everyone's looking healthy and having a blast checking out their odd new roomies..

Thanks again for the helpful advice!

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7 years 3 months ago #33139 by Nuchal Man
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I'd be careful with your planned stocking. While it is ok to mix mbuna and haps given certain circumstances (I do it fairly regularly), some of the mbuna you plan to have, mainly the msobo and P. johanii will be to aggressive for the rather mild Cyrtocara and peacocks. You'll also probably have squabbles between the msobo and johanii as well as both males and females are fairly similar in color.

As far as cycling the new tank, if you still have 55 just use the water from that as well as some filter media from that tank to cycle the 150. That is the easiest and safest way as you are using an already biologically established source.

I have a confession. I'm a cichlaholic.
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7 years 3 months ago #33135 by Fishfoolery
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@ ScubaDiver - Well, when I had my 55 up I would just use old 5 gallon Hinkley bottles filled a week before and used 2 or 3 of those to perform water changes every 2 weeks accompanied with a thorough vacuum and API aquarium salts. Kept my water perfect and fish very healthy. I figure I will be using the same method but pumping it up to 6 bottles and adding a ladder.

@ Kegger22 - I know it goes against most advice, but I do a combo of Haps and Mbunas. When I first started getting into the hobby I had Yellow Labs, Fuelleborni, and a Blue Ali in a 26 Bow. I upgraded to a 55 and watched the fish grow and grow. Now I'm into a 150. They never fought in the 55 but I wanted to more tank for them.

Additional species will include Protomelas "Mara Rocks", SRT Hongi pair, Msobo pair, a giant blue Johanni, a Jacobfri, a Lemon Jacobfri, a pair of Dragonbloods, 2 Blue Dolphins, and a Nimbochromis Fusco to run the show.

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7 years 4 months ago #33122 by Kegger22
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my first question would be,

What type of Africans are you thinking about for your final decision?
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7 years 4 months ago #33121 by scubadiver
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That's a big tank most cichlids are pretty hearty.
I would start with a small group of quality yellow labs.

Remember your challenge will be getting the tank up to its end state stock levels.

Other idea is get a bunch of juvies and they will grow into the cycle and naturally increase the bio load as they grow.

Have you figured out your water changes

Are you looking to be involved or commited
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7 years 4 months ago #33120 by scubadiver
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That's a big tank most cichlids are pretty hearty.
I would start with a small group of quality yellow labs.

Remember your challenge will be getting the tank up to its end state stock levels.

Other idea is get a bunch of juries and they will grow into the cycle and naturally increase the bio load as they grow.

Have you figured out your water changes

Are you looking to be involved or commited
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7 years 4 months ago #33119 by ziggy2
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I would not use live fish. I always use the fishless method using ammonia. It is a better cycle.
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7 years 4 months ago #33118 by Fishfoolery
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Greetings GCCA!!!

I recently setup my 150 extra high and am super pumped to get my African Cichlids in there. I wanted to put some fish in the tank to help cycle the water before the Africans were put in to make sure the water is safe.

My tank is extremely hard to get into because its 31 inches tall (and on a tall stand) and I'm not going to want to move the boulders that rest in a pile at the bottom (230 lbs of them).

So here's my question....

Are there any smaller (inexpensive) fish that look nice and would still get along with Africans (Hap and Mbunas)? I'm not planning on fishing them out once the waters are "Cichlid Worthy," so I'm looking for them to stay, but not become food.

Any Advice??

Thanks in advance for any replies!

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