What the...This makes no sense

11 years 7 months ago - 11 years 7 months ago #9073 by baldtaxguy
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Update -

did a water change Friday night.  Last night I checked and all fish were doing well.  This morning, the remaining chanchos are affected once again, in death spirals.  Here are pics:





The only common denominator with this and the other tank where the zonatum and amarillo died is that these are the only tanks that I have without substrate - they are bare bottomed.  But I have been testing for Amonia and nitrates, but levels are very, very low, nitrates imperceptible.

Its obvious they have something that I have not treated, and I am not sure how to, but it is triggered by a water change.  I do not have a kit for testing metals, but I added extra conditioner.  This time it seemed to happen much more quickly.

The remaining fish are toast, or soon will be.  I will do a complete water change, removing all deco, and add new gravel. Start from scratch with new stock.
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11 years 7 months ago #9034 by baldtaxguy
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Sorry about your fish.  Where do you live?  With all of the flooding I wouldn't be surprised if some municipalities have increased the use of chlorine and chloramine in their water treatment and that the amount of dechlor you used just didn't cut it.  It almost sounds like columnaris to me which can be induced by poor water quality.  And elevated chlorine and/or chloramine just might do it.  But this is only a guess.
Take care,
Mary.


Interesting theory about increased chlorine and chloramine.  I'm in Palatine, not much flooding, but maybe we share water supply with others who do. Just did this week's water change and added a little extra dechlor.  Good news - I did discover 3 chancho huddling in a pvc tube, they seemed to have whethered the storm.  One has a lesion that looks consistent with some form of columnaris, based on some quick internet research.  Dunno, does not appear to be much in the way of effective treatment for the fast acting strains - not sure how to defend against another occurence.

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11 years 7 months ago #8965 by mduros
Sorry about your fish.  Where do you live?  With all of the flooding I wouldn't be surprised if some municipalities have increased the use of chlorine and chloramine in their water treatment and that the amount of dechlor you used just didn't cut it.  It almost sounds like columnaris to me which can be induced by poor water quality.  And elevated chlorine and/or chloramine just might do it.  But this is only a guess.
Take care,
Mary.

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11 years 7 months ago #8939 by leej24
I had the same thing happen to my 40 long multie colony. They died overnight and the tank looked like I had poured milk in it.  I didn't add anything nor did I remove anything.  The only thing I did was rinse out the sponge.  My problem was that I washed the sponge with tap water.  Other than that I don't think that would have been enough to kill all the fish. 

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11 years 7 months ago #8937 by shepp
wow this is one other reason that i like using RO i hope its not somthing in the water sorry for your loss!!!!!!

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11 years 7 months ago #8924 by redzebra24
Wow, I am so sorry this happpened. I must say, honestly. Its the curse of the stock list post. I dont post exact numbers of what I have anymore, when I used to something would happen.

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11 years 7 months ago #8918 by baldtaxguy
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Im so sorry for your loss, I know this is gonna sound goofy, but Did you get a pic of the infection? Maybe to help us down the road should we see it.

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Sorry for your loss.

Chris

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No, its not goofy - I meant to, but the garbage men came before I thought of it.  The fungus, or whatever it was, was so coarse. Picture dipping the fish in white hand soap - just covered in a white body suit.

It was so quick acting, makes me wonder what is swimmming around in our water supply.

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11 years 7 months ago #8917 by nuth88
Im so sorry for your loss, I know this is gonna sound goofy, but Did you get a pic of the infection? Maybe to help us down the road should we see it.

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Sorry for your loss.

Chris

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11 years 7 months ago #8916 by
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dunno but i got it a few months back.  Wiped out a bunch of cats, festae and dovii.

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11 years 7 months ago - 11 years 7 months ago #8912 by baldtaxguy
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So after posting my stock list yesterday:

www.gcca.net/gccaforum/index.php/topic,784.msg8784.html#msg8784

something inexplicable occurred as my luck would have it.  The fish in two of my 75g are dead...in 24-36 hours. 

(1) Nothing was added to either of these tanks and I did not net or move any fish in these tanks.  Regardless, my nets are always in salt water.
(2) Normal water changes occurred Sunday.  Right from tap with water conditioner.
(3) Fish in all other tanks are unaffected (at least so far!).   
(4) Yesterday, I noticed closed fins and ich-like white spots developing.  Just on fish within these two tanks. 
(5) Temps were at 79 degrees.
(6) No indications of amonia, or nites. 
(7) I performed a 95 percent water change with warmer water, raising temps to 84-85.
(8) Added salt.
(9) Get home a few hours ago, everything dead, completely covered with a white fungus, even plecos, except....
my sole two seiboldi, show no indications of anything, looking completely normal, swimming among the corpses.

chancho - gone
meeki - gone
zonatum - gone
1/2 of amarillo - gone

Very discouraging.

What type of bug acts this fast?
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