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11 years 6 months ago #3278 by Kegger22
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So,  it would appear that I had a Nitrate spike.  Maybe I got a little fast and loose with the feeding?  And maybe the water change done without the conditioner added to the stress.


sounds like you hit the nail on the head, can't remember all the exacts about this but I do know that there are certain days of the year and also during certain weather conditions that the water treatment plants add more clorine/cloramines to the water to safeguard the system and I do believe it's when the water level rises for some reason, I'm guessing since over the weekend the temps were higher there could have been some ice meltdown in the lake and they may have been adding extra to safeguard the system, that combined with the one day you didn't add the conditioner along with maybe some extra feeding adding the nitrate bloom is a perfect combo for disaster, thankfully you caught it in time and the fish are ok now, as mounkey said, add some meythl blue and maybe give them a day off of feeding to get things in check with your tank

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11 years 6 months ago #3277 by duanest
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That would help, especially if the airstone is right below where you add water and agitating it as it enters the tank.

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11 years 6 months ago #3270 by rm-slover
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what about adding an airstone to break up the surface. sometimes surface aggitation will increase oxygen to the tank and will also help with the microbubbles.

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11 years 6 months ago #3267 by mounkey54
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if it was a nitrate spike i would add half a dose of methalene blue... last year after i moved. two weeks later  i had massive die off couldn't figure it out water tested perfect . another guy had told me to dose them because they can't exspell some toxins with out help. literaly 10 minutes later all the fish perked up and acted like nothing ever happened. 

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11 years 6 months ago #3263 by Nuchal Man
Good pt. Duane. I've had my share of microbuble problems. You learn quickly, as it can wipe out a tank.

I have a confession. I'm a cichlaholic.

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11 years 6 months ago #3256 by duanest
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I'm by no means a front expert, but I do believe they are highly sensitive to gas bubble syndrome, and at this time of year it is especially a problem after a water change.  Because our tap water is cold, it is saturatated with oxygen, that oxygen is not releasd until it leaves the faucett. As soon as it hits the warmth of our house,  microbubbles form as the exygen is released and can effect our fish, and especially fish from a benthic area of a lake, ie fronts from 100ft down in L Tanganyka.
Using a conditioner not only eliminates Chlorine/chloramine, it also helps eliminate microbubbles. If you can direct the water stream to hit/splash on something like a rock, microbubbles are released before entering the tank, if you put the new water into a barrel with an airstone running before entering the tank, this helps. I ad water to a barrel sump 1st, the water entering the barrel from the PVC with the red shut off valve is water direct from the tap. The valve is threaded on the effluent side, which helps to disrupt the stream a little too.


I knows it's not pretty, but it's very effective.

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11 years 6 months ago #3254 by sawboy2
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Update:



Ammonia = 0 ppm

Nitrite = 0 ppm

NitrAte = 40 - 80.  Hard to determine the color,  but it is closer in color to the 40 and 80 bars than the color of the 20 bar.



I just did a 20 - 30% water change and added conditioner,  which I did not do yesterday.  I also shut off the lights and they seem to be somewhat more active.  But still not themselves.  This is a tank that has had these fish for about a month and was fully cycled.



So,  it would appear that I had a Nitrate spike.  Maybe I got a little fast and loose with the feeding?  And maybe the water change done without the conditioner added to the stress.



What next.  I have a pet store nearby but they close at 9  (30 minutes from now).  Do I need to go and buy and add some salt and raise the temp,  or just let the water change and conditioner settle in and recheck tomorrow?





Thanks,  Bob

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11 years 6 months ago #3251 by sawboy2
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Hey everyone.  I came home today after work to find all my fronts laying at the bottom of the tank. 



Yesterday they were FINE!  Did a 30% water change and today.....BLAMMO.  They are all just sitting there.  Temp is fine.  Filters are working.



Gonna do a water test in about an hour.  I have to pick someone up at the airport right now.



No stringy poop that I can see.



I plan on doing the water test and a 50% change when I get back.  Any other suggestions?





Thanks,  Bob

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