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lethargic gymnogeophagus gymnogenys

10 years 4 months ago #19793 by jrflanagan
Thanks.....I'm trying to bring the temp down still. It's at about 76 now. It didn't come down as much as I had hoped overnight and during the day today.

I noticed today that it looks like it has a long clear/white feces hanging now.....could that be an indication of something?

It's at the surface gasping for air, so I hope it's not too late.

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10 years 4 months ago #19770 by duanest
78' is OK for Gymnos for a short time, but a bit high,
I found when I kept Gymnos at 76-80 they would do well only for a few weeks, then get lethargic and waste away.
The warm water seems to leave them open to stress related disease and because they are so larthargic, other fish will pick on them.
This happened with Gym labiatus, rio cuaru and balzani.
My only success has been either keeping them in the basement this winter at 62' (Gymno gymnogenys sp Paso Pache) or in the pond in summer where night time temps drop the water temp a bit.
62' does not need to be a constent, but I wouldn't go higher than 74' for long, in Uruguay they are sometimes found where ice covers the water for a short time.

The above fish is living at 62'.

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10 years 4 months ago #19767 by jrflanagan
I'm using drip strips. I'll purchase a drop test kit and retest.

I'll also bring the temp down and see if that does the trick.

Thanks for the help.

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10 years 4 months ago #19765 by dragonkeeper

it's been up for 3 months. it's a 75 gallon tank. i've got a fluval 405 and an aquaclear 110 gallon filter on it. The nitrates could be low because I've got so much filtration.

i've got 6 rams, a gymnogeophagus balzani, an elliot's cichlid, 2 bristlenose, 3 cory cats and several tetras


A Fluval 405 and a AC110 is no where near over filtering a 75 gallon, but even so nitrates should show up 99% of the time that you test. Are you using drips or strips? Drip test will expire after a month or so after purchase.

gymno like cooler water.


That was my next suggestion. Bring your water temp down to around 70 70 degrees.

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10 years 4 months ago #19752 by rm-slover
gymno like cooler water.

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10 years 4 months ago #19743 by jrflanagan
it's been up for 3 months. it's a 75 gallon tank. i've got a fluval 405 and an aquaclear 110 gallon filter on it. The nitrates could be low because I've got so much filtration.

i've got 6 rams, a gymnogeophagus balzani, an elliot's cichlid, 2 bristlenose, 3 cory cats and several tetras

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10 years 4 months ago #19741 by madzarembski

I need help figuring out what's wrong with my gymnogeophagus gymnogenys.

I purchased one approximately two weeks ago, and it was very active for the first 5 days. For the next 4 days it was very lethargic, appreared to have a little labored breathing and hid in a cave. The next day it was resting on the bottom of the tank, and struggling with its breathing and then died.

I replaced the fish and it too was active at first, and 4 days later the replacement is starting to do the same thing. What could the problem be? No other fish are showing any symptoms.

pH ~ 7.2
hardness: somewhere between 50-120ppm
alkalinity: 80ppm
temp: 78 degrees

ammonia: 0 ppm
nitrate: 0ppm
nitrite: 0 ppm

thanks!


Hi, nitrates at 0...that indicated you have not properly cycled the tank.  Let's start at the beginning. 1. How long has the tank been set up? 2. What else is in the tank? 3. What size is the tank?

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10 years 4 months ago - 10 years 4 months ago #19739 by jrflanagan
I need help figuring out what's wrong with my gymnogeophagus gymnogenys.

I purchased one approximately two weeks ago, and it was very active for the first 5 days. For the next 4 days it was very lethargic, appreared to have a little labored breathing and hid in a cave. The next day it was resting on the bottom of the tank, and struggling with its breathing and then died.

I replaced the fish and it too was active at first, and 4 days later the replacement is starting to do the same thing. What could the problem be? No other fish are showing any symptoms.

pH ~ 7.2
hardness: somewhere between 50-120ppm
alkalinity: 80ppm
temp: 78 degrees

ammonia: 0 ppm
nitrate: 0ppm
nitrite: 0 ppm

thanks!
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