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Ophthalmotilapia Boops advice needed

5 months 6 days ago #37602 by Adam James K
Quick update...

Lots of spawning lately. Recently got back from a vacation to Mexico and had several females holding. 2 just spawned before I left on the trip. Now have fry growing out. These fish are so fast. Worst fish netting experience ever. Really stressed out the fish. Another 2 females are holding this weekend. 2 males are splitting the tank down the middle, with the fish on the right more dominant. Neither have the bright blue streak as of yet, but some blue markings coming through.

Also got my first spawn out of the Jumbo Kitumba cyps.

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6 months 1 week ago #37584 by Adam James K
Thanks a lot Mike. I appreciate the input, compliments and suggestions.

I'm not a big fan of tumbling eggs. And I did not want to with these guys. I'll just give them some time to sertle in and grow up. Dominant male blue starting to come in more each day. Sub-dominant getting darker. I'll switch up the rockwork down the road as you suggested, especially if I'm seeing signs of stress. Don't want a case of bloat on my hands. As of right now, the dominant male seems to never stop chasing and dancing, but keeps to the right hand side of the tank for the most part.

I've utilized this website for years, but just recently became a member. Hoping I can make it to the meeting with Larry Johnson. The BAP certainly interests me.

Take care

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6 months 2 weeks ago #37583 by mikeg2929
Nice video. When it first started, I thought "nuts another too loud soundtrack" but I was wrong. I thought it was great when the music faded and you began the discussion.

It is not atypical for the young female to fail to hold. Your fish are very, very young. In another year, they will by 5" and staggeringly beautiful and worth the wait. Unless you are chasing BAP points, leaving them alone will make for a very rewarding breeder colony over time. I'm convinced if you strip young fish you imprint on them not to hold to term.

The jumbo kitumbas are my favorite cyp. I did well with a 1:1 ratio and with a 2: 12 ratio.

Boops are very aggressive; probably the most aggressive of the feather fins.

A line of sight break is very effective, but not always aesthetically pleasing. If you moved the big rock on the right to the middle and the middle rocks to the right, you may be able to set up two territories. This will work with ventralis. In that case, you may get two males to color up.

Thats the hard thing with feather fins and why they dont always make great "livingroom" fish. They color up so infrequently, but when they do they are amazing.

It's a great looking tank and video.

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6 months 2 weeks ago #37582 by Adam James K
Female was no longer holding at 12 days. Thought she was in the clear. Oh well...

Here's a video I did on these a couple weeks ago-


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7 months 6 days ago #37576 by adamjamesk
Had the fish for 11 days. 1 male has been pretty apparent from the start. Yesterday he was no longer mostly silver, but a sooty black. Very small tingles of blue ear the caudal. There is a female holding. He's actively chasing fish but not particularly defending a zone. No sand being moved around or bower.

Any experience with stripping these? Should I go in after lights out to strip? Wait a couple weeks to strip or go for it in a few days and tumble?

Thanks

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7 months 2 weeks ago #37575 by Adam James K
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7 months 2 weeks ago #37574 by Adam James K
Thank you Jason

I jumped the gun and started scaping last night. Finished, filled and got filtration online. Then I read your reply. Sounds like 2 males fully colored is a pipe dream. These are coming in at a decent size from Alan Bliven. 2.5-3".

Please take a look at the attached photo and suggest what changes should be made. Open sand areas are lacking. My idea was to provide raised platforms for male(s) to claim, with areas for females to find refuge. I am lacking line of sight breaks in the center, but there are some on the left side?

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7 months 2 weeks ago #37573 by scubadiver
I love Boops have kept them once before -

They are the meanest of the feather fins, I have owned and their aggression as you will find out is different than the mbuna.

Landscaping - they will do love sand but they like rocks as well -

I would get some big river rock to allow the females and subs dominate to escape the males. The dominant males will typically take 2 foot section and nail any fish that comes into when they are flashing / dancing.

Design the tank with two sand areas and something in the middle that can break up the line of sight and then keep areas for the females to hide in.

Good luck and keep us posted.

The speed of Boops is what is incredible.

Cheers,
Jason

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7 months 2 weeks ago #37572 by Adam James K
Hello

I have ordered a dozen of these fish, to be housed in a 125 gallon 72x18". I've done research at C-F, cichlidae.com and some older posts on here where the fish is discussed. Research on featherfins as a whole, as well. The goal is to certainly breed this species.

My issue is determining a proper aquascape. In the lake this fish lives and defends territories in the rocks. So the scape shouldn't mirror something you would do for C. Furcifer/Foai? If provided with rocks that are flat and up off the substrate(I'm using sand), will Boops utilize this for territory and spawning? If provided with this, perhaps it will not create bowers in the sand? I would also provide rockwork to break lines if sight and refuge for females.

Am planning to add Cyp. Leptosoma Kitumba jumbos as the lone tankmate. I've read that these would coexist with Ophthalmotilapia. I know there is a dietary difference between these 2 fish, but looking to use a quality pellet like NLS or Northfin as a staple.

My experience with Tangs is extremely limited. I'm prepared for the aggressive reputation Boops carries, as I have kept quite a few mbuna species including Melanochromis, Tropheops, etc.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you
Adam

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