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1 week 1 day ago #36889 by Greenwater
I think Jason put it quite well; times change, you change with the times or you're left in the dust. Attendance at the annual Classic has dwindled, but for promoting the hobby in general & GCCA in particular it is wise to use the assets provided by Aquatic Experience rather than our own. Yes, the hobby has been in decline for many years, but I'd bet if someone were to chart the decline in the hobby, and the activity of GCCA you'd see that mainly due to the very busy & well promoted swaps our club is doing a bit better than keeping pace.

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3 weeks 6 days ago #36861 by IndecisiveCichlidKeeper
I have only been able to be more active within the club in the last year and a half or so but had been to events prior to that off and on. Moving up here and discovering the GCCA after being an area that was fairly bare of clubs, hobbyists, and keepers in general was a huge thing for myself with the hobby. I've kept and bred cichlids since I was young, I worked for a small wholesaling operation learning even more from great people, but the experience for me within the hobby has really improved since joining the club. I've been a number of great people in club events with the same passion for the hobby.

The Classics that I have been to have been fun but also underwhelming in total attendance. The cost and the pressure put on the small group of regular volunteers has to be really high atm. It never hurts to reevaluate a situation and adapt to changes. Reassessing the value for the price of the classic and in a year or two redeveloping a more cost effective or alternative event for the members is not a bad idea. I personally know that the board is always trying to work on ideas towards the benefits of the members but at the same time, it's also members responsibilities to work towards the growth of the club. Whenever I see negative comments regarding an event, I tend to notice that it comes from people who don't volunteer at any events or in some case even attend them. It's typically the same group of people working hard to make things happen.

Also, the reference to the Ohio event, isn't it also 5 or 6 different cichlid clubs pooling ideas, people, and funds together to put that event on? Correct me if I am wrong.
I do think in time, adding an auction would be neat as they are enjoyable but they do also take a lot more planning and work to put on compared to the swap meets that are a huge success within the community.

The real goal now that is also being worked on is developing improved ways for turning those swap visitor numbers into more GCCA club members. I also know that through discussions with people who are on the board that we have atleast one upcoming event that we hope to push to bring in possible members. Growth and new blood into the club will hopefully have a positive effect.

The hobby is not what it once was, adapting is vital.

Rant over!

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4 weeks 11 hours ago #36859 by 1fishgeek
Yes, there will be a Memorial Day Weekend,, however, without a GCCA Classic. The Board is talk about bringing back one Auction per year, most likely will not happen this year. (Our 2017 Dates are already set)

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1 month 2 weeks ago #36575 by mikeg2929
The Classic was on its last legs for years. Aquatic Experience was the last straw. Folks aren't going to come back to Chicago 2 times in a year. Its simply too much $. And they have sea lions for god's sake.

I got out of fish in May 2013, but I'm a life long hobbyist, so I still pay attention.

Wages have been stagnant, older guys are, well older, and we never did a great job of reaching out to more women and to the younger demographic. Less folks in the hobby, means only the strong survive. The OCA has been killing it since I got back in in 1999. They run a less expensive program and are closer to the east coast so folks can drive. The Classic always played second fiddle, IMO.

I remember when we decided to start scaling back auctions - we added too many rules. No dry goods, limits on type of fish, etc. Attendees pissed and moaned, but it was easier on the club. A long time member said at that time, that the reputation of the GCCA was that we were getting hard to work with and folks would stop coming. I guess he was right.

One thing I have noticed, its always the same few members doing all the work. That's why swaps were easier to hold - you needed a handle of folks to run them. You need an army to run a big auction.

If you run the same number of swaps, without a the deficit running Classic to suck up the $, what will you do with all the money? Good luck figuring that out.

Good luck to Jason and the rest in figuring out how to keep the club vibrant.

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1 month 2 weeks ago #36574 by drwho0731
As far as My opinion the swaps killed your club. Too many swaps breed people breeding for profit not hobbyists who become active in the club to make it viable. Semi-annual swaps alternated with more auctions.
Please correct me, if I'm wrong, but I would attend every auction you guys would hold. Swaps are bad for clubs. Not as much profit.

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1 month 2 weeks ago #36573 by newworld
I was saying that the club isn't what it was, I don't know if you were here in the 90's but those classics were impressive, as were the auctions, the last classics just got smaller and less interesting, as for the hobby changing yes everything changes, but look as Ohio's extravaganza it looks like they might have the recipe....

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1 month 2 weeks ago - 1 week 23 hours ago #36572 by scubadiver
I am pretty sure the club is not at the same level as its heyday, but neither is the hobby.

That being said

The GCCA had more BAP's last year than any other year as well getting the ACA award for Breeder of the year and wining the ACA award for the club with the most BAPs (Thanks Mario and Matt)

The club had an amazing Holiday Party and Picnic (some noted that the Holiday Party was the best ever)

The club ran the Aquatic Experience ACA Cichlid show where our very own Mario won $500 for first place and where Cichlids were put on display for over 6000 attendees, more than every other Classic combined. It was a great show and a lot workers were given some nice donations.

The club has two members only Auctions that are extremely successful and are bigger than they have ever been.

The club has the most active fish classifieds system of any Cichlid club and potentially of any other club period, as well as a robust online presence and an active facebook group.

Last and certainly not least, the club has five swaps a year (which I believe may be the largest fish swaps in the United States ) and 10 meetings per year.

Thats an awful lot of accomplishments and events but hey, I am not bragging.

Sam - A Pig and a Chicken are walking down the road. The Chicken says, "Pig, I was thinking we should open a restaurant!". Pig replies, "What would we call it?". The Chicken responds, "How about ham-n-eggs?" The Pig thinks for a moment and says, No thanks. I'd be committed, but you'd only be involved.

Any time you want to step up and be a Pig let us know if not stop squawking :)

Cheers,
Jason

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1 month 2 weeks ago #36571 by newworld
That's too bad seems like the club is a shell of what it was....

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1 month 2 weeks ago #36570 by drwho0731
Well it was good while it lasted. Won't be planning any trips up unless there is a Greenwater event.

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1 month 2 weeks ago #36566 by scubadiver
At this point the club is not going to put on the classic in 2017. You may not agree with the reasons but the cost was over $$$$$ and very few people attended.

We are focusing on the Fish Show at the Aquatic Experience and focusing our efforts on the meetings and swaps.

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