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TOPIC: Trying to Spawn Bolivian Rams

Trying to Spawn Bolivian Rams 5 years 2 months ago #29849

This will be a log of my first attempt at getting Bolivian Rams to spawn.  They're not exactly rare but I like them a lot so what the hell.

Bought two back in august,  both male.  I spent at least a half hour staring at a tank with thirty young rams back in  December looking for a female.  They all looked exactly the same. Picked the one with the shortest spines in the front of the dorsal.  I think I got lucky, I'm pretty sure I've got a pair.  The female is still pretty young but we'll give it a shot.

Setup:
10gallon tank, regular tap water, 82F. hang on power filter
  Fine quartz gravel mixed with sand, bunch of rocks forming a few caves,
plants for cover, 
Two small pieces of slate buried up front with a quarter sized spot exposed.

I moved the female into the tank three days ago and the male the next day after she'd settled a bit.
also in the tank- one female guppy and a bunch of ramshorn snails.

Both hid for the first 48 hrs.

25 % Water change this morning, normal tap, few degrees cooler than tank
Fed frozen bloodworms until they would eat no more.

They've started showing some good signs.  Locking lips, synchronized swimming, started clearing the slate. Tube's down on female.

pics of the setup and some of the fish.

Male a few weeks ago:

Female I hope:

Tank:  Coffee filters taped over top to dim light, Maybe remove one slate so they can concentrate on one?
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They're mostly focused on the black slate.  Male uses his body,  female uses her mouth one grain at a time and spits them all the way in the far corner.


Back to the red


More to come if I see some eggs.
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Re: Trying to Spawn Bolivian Rams 5 years 2 months ago #29850

looking good and good luck. I know rams can be hard to breed sometimes.
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Re: Trying to Spawn Bolivian Rams 5 years 2 months ago #29851

Thanks

;D This was too easy.

eggs this afternoon.  I'd clean the glass but don't want to stress them.  This batch will stay in with the pair,  see what happens.



Edit:  Male got beat up slightly.  Hopefully did his job with the eggs, I moved him back into the other tank. Not enough room in a 10gallon for him to hide from the female.
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Re: Trying to Spawn Bolivian Rams 5 years 2 months ago #29852

Nice!  Congrats.
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Re: Trying to Spawn Bolivian Rams 5 years 2 months ago #29855

congrads
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Re: Trying to Spawn Bolivian Rams 5 years 2 months ago #29863

Only a few turned white but she ate about half the eggs anyway.  she doesn't seem to do a very good job guarding/fanning the eggs.

I can see eyes in the remaining eggs if I look really close. Male got things done.


best I can do through the dirty glass:
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Re: Trying to Spawn Bolivian Rams 5 years 2 months ago #29869

Nice job, how long till they swim?
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Re: Trying to Spawn Bolivian Rams 5 years 2 months ago #29870

Should be 4 or 5 days til free swimming from what I've read. Already moving quite a bit.  I'm guessing they'll be up by Friday.  Microworms are ready,  I'll start some brine shrimp for the weekend.

They look like little moving pieces of gravel. Not much to see. 30-50 maybe



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Re: Trying to Spawn Bolivian Rams 5 years 1 month ago #29873

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Female is no longer guarding anything.  No sign of any fry. 
I believe she ate the rest of them.

I'll give it a few days to be sure they aren't just hidden. but it's not looking good.

Next batch gets raised by an airstone.
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Re: Trying to Spawn Bolivian Rams 5 years 1 month ago #29874

Questions for anyone who has an opinion:

How long should I wait to try to spawn these again?
Can the female go again right away? - she's still pretty fat.

Female is alone in the 10,  male is in a community tank.  When should I drop him back in with the female?  Been a week since she laid the last batch.
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